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    basically Te types work with what THEY find objective not what YOU find objective. i think this is the biggest mistake some people make. you're not the center of the universe, this is why you need to look at where people are coming from and not just what they're doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandpa Rob View Post
    I find it particularly infuriating that you can recognize on a dime but not
    I wanted more information from you. Te

    I recognize Si because it activates me, because it is one way that balances me out; if you could do Te all day, baby, we would be here all day and you would be pouring out a shoot ton of Te and I wouldn't get tired at all.

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    EIIs are usually very curious and thirsty for information.
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I wanted more information from you. Te

    I recognize Si because it activates me, because it is one way that balances me out; if you could do Te all day, baby, we would be here all day and you would be pouring out a shoot ton of Te and I wouldn't get tired at all.

    Wiki:
    EIIs are usually very curious and thirsty for information.
    The words you say are dumb, but the way you say them is sexually arousing.
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    lmao

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    Default Delta STs on the forum

    I have several Delta STs in my life. They are all very real world hands on people. The women ESTjs I know churn their own butter and sew their own clothes in their free time. The ISTps are fixing things in their garage, hiking, gardening all day, etc. None of them are interesting in Socionics, let alone this forum. LOL Like not in a million years. hehe I am wondering what brought any Delta STs to this forum? What hands on things are you usually doing? Is this forum something you are doing for an NF in your life? Thank you for any insights.

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    I got into MBTI wayyy back in the day when I was researching possible careers in highschool. I discovered Socionics several years ago and just kind of bummed around ever since even though I'm not really interested in the subject anymore.
    SLI/ISTp -- Te subtype

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    I got here by 'accident' - I was killing with laughter some horoscope site and someone posted a link to an MBTI forum, and on that MBTI forum I found a link to this forum. So, if any one is interested and is willing to help me to criticise all the idiots and wankers I'm going to find on my path, you're welcome, dual.

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    2 of my best friends are LSE and they are the sweetest people! Most people think they are strong, tough, bossy. But I know better. And they get me off the internet and off my arse! Oh, and they carry things for me. heehee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    I got here by 'accident' - I was killing with laughter some horoscope site and someone posted a link to an MBTI forum, and on that MBTI forum I found a link to this forum. So, if any one is interested and is willing to help me to criticise all the idiots and wankers I'm going to find on my path, you're welcome, dual.
    Why on earth would you think not just an EII, but any EII ever, would express even a joking interest in this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    Why on earth would you think not just an EII, but any EII ever, would express even a joking interest in this?
    I wasn't joking. Hey, I'm just clannish at times...

    So, if there is any EII or IEE wanting to lul at SEE or any other type, stand up and be counted...
    Last edited by Absurd; 09-18-2013 at 07:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    Why on earth would you think not just an EII, but any EII ever, would express even a joking interest in this?
    this is a pretty hardline behavioral statement. no eii ever? are you sure?

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    Yeah, for example I can lul at lungs now, her being ESI, which would remind me of my mum (I think she is ESI, but I can be wrong), that lives and re-lives the past all the time.

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    JWC3, I don't know, I'm an IEE and I found Absurd's post funny. And as I laughed, I said to myself "and the funniest part of that post, is that if he is an LSE, he is NOT joking!" LOL
    BTW, what does lul mean? Kid around maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    this is a pretty hardline behavioral statement. no eii ever? are you sure?
    You'd have to put a whole hell of a lot of psychological pressure on them to get this behavior even in a serious situation. In the way Absurd mentioned it? The whole "Let's judge people because it's fun and they're practically begging for it anyway", yeah, I think that'd be pretty hard behavior to come by.
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    I love a woman who can churn her own butter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macysmama View Post
    JWC3, I don't know, I'm an IEE and I found Absurd's post funny. And as I laughed, I said to myself "and the funniest part of that post, is that if he is an LSE, he is NOT joking!" LOL
    BTW, what does lul mean? Kid around maybe?
    Yeah, it mostly aimed at at people who don't know what they're talking about but insist they do, stubbornly. So it's "hey, look at that idiot" or "look at that 'smart one'" professing something when it doesn't really hold any water at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    You'd have to put a whole hell of a lot of psychological pressure on them to get this behavior even in a serious situation. In the way Absurd mentioned it? The whole "Let's judge people because it's fun and they're practically begging for it anyway", yeah, I think that'd be pretty hard behavior to come by.
    I'm not judging people for being stupid, I just state they're being unreasonable and insane about something - did of this plenty on this forum. And seeing this is getting out of hand, make a thread solely dedicated to me, JWC3. Let my presence in one of them guide your path to "yoga enlightenment" or whatever you call that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleJim View Post
    I love a woman who can churn her own butter.
    you just made it sound like a euphemism for something...messy.

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    I'm sure it did. I can provide IJ with great amounts of butter that he is going to have to eat at the spot.

    Oh and congratulations on remembering your username, IJ. Congratulations for me, of course. I usually don't pay any attention to them and have to check whether I got the proper one. Even if you're out of the bundle as far as I am concerned, you did get in my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    You'd have to put a whole hell of a lot of psychological pressure on them to get this behavior even in a serious situation. In the way Absurd mentioned it? The whole "Let's judge people because it's fun and they're practically begging for it anyway", yeah, I think that'd be pretty hard behavior to come by.
    In my experience, Ep temperaments tend to be very offended by the 'judging' statements of Ej temperaments. Trust me. I have a lot of experience in this subject area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    you just made it sound like a euphemism for something...messy.
    mmmhmmm, churning, butter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    In my experience, Ep temperaments tend to be very offended by the 'judging' statements of Ej temperaments. Trust me. I have a lot of experience in this subject area.
    In that case I would be offended by Ep judging Ej, William Tell. Socionics, any one?

    Same goes for you, for I don't really know which personality you have just glued yourself to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    In my experience, Ep temperaments tend to be very offended by the 'judging' statements of Ej temperaments. Trust me. I have a lot of experience in this subject area.
    I am the Ep temperament and Absurd is the Ej? As in you think I was offended by his statement? I'm decidedly not offended. I think Absurd is correct, his dual would be willing to join in the behavior he describes. I don't think his dual is EII. I more think Absurd is an idiot for thinking this and enjoy calling him out on being stupid from time to time. So, no, I'm not offended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    I think Absurd is correct, his dual would be willing to join in the behavior he describes. I don't think his dual is EII. I more think Absurd is an idiot for thinking this and enjoy calling him out on being stupid from time to time. So, no, I'm not offended.
    What's on your mind, then? If you'll forgive the overstatement. I'm sure it is going to end up very productive.

    Oh and watch out, you may turn out Ej, liek William. Or whatever chameleon sociotype he is...

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    While I do enjoy some hands-on activities (hiking, crafting), I mostly read about lots of theoretical things I'm interested in. Besides that, I'm basically living inside of my computer and since I was always interested in analyzing myself and my personality, it was just a matter of time until I joined this forum. There was no NF who made me join or anything like that.
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    And you're private/exclusive, Pa3s. Good to know.

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    Although I'm generally too tactful to overtly criticize/offend people, I really can't fucking stand astrology. If I didn't have that whole compassion/empathy bullshit to deal with I'd totally let them know that I think they're profoundly deluded lol.
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    Well, at least you didn't know a guy who read not his own horoscope for the day and stubbornly defended the notion he is that particular zodiac, even though he was born some other year and month.

    Must of been an "unyielding LSE."

    If any one is interested he was was born under Bull and read a completely different horoscope every time saying it fits him. I worked with him, hilarious fellow, would get drunk at the workplace and get all confused as to why boss wanted to fire him three times. Some Se something Socionics wise, I think.
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    I am still not a 100% sure of my type but i always somehow come back to SLI so I post in this thread

    When I was 16 I played a lot of Neverwinter Nights and in a RPG Forum (subject was alignment I think) was a link to this site (http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp). With 24 the whole stuff came back to my head because I started a new study and was in a self analyzing phase. I started with personalitycafe but it was to much stereotype for me. At pc I got to know socionics and was fascinated about the whole system and therefore was looking after a Socionics-forum.

    I like to work on my bike and do a lot of bike maintenance in my friend circle. Mechanical stuff can fascinate me e.g. I'll start with archery soon and read already a lot about bows. I like nature a lot and love therefore hiking and cycling. I also like to cook but gardening is not my cup of tea.

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    Leckysupport is LSE

    I just introduced my two LSE neighbors to socionics. They both know each other and are identical relations and have been talking about their types to each other for a week now. They are too busy with pragmatic things so they can't be on this forum.
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    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    I like sorting things. I like sorting people. Socionics was the best way I found to do that. I knit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post
    While I do enjoy some hands-on activities (hiking, crafting), I mostly read about lots of theoretical things I'm interested in. Besides that, I'm basically living inside of my computer and since I was always interested in analyzing myself and my personality, it was just a matter of time until I joined this forum. There was no NF who made me join or anything like that.
    That comes from the stereotype that SLIs are thrill seekers and obviously, not all of them are.

    Socionics only goes as far as describing what is known as the information metabolism in an abstract sense. It just happen to describe people by coincidence. But real people have more characteristics than simply some order in which the information elements are arranged. I have this little hypothesis that explains the apparently mysterious intratype differences: hyposensitiveness and hypersensitiveness. This is a property of memory in general.

    People with hyposensitive characteristics tend to experience things in a shallow way: it rarely makes a lasting impact on them. This makes them to be excitement seekers. This kind of people lives in a "working memory" world, analog to RAM.

    People with hypersensitive characteristics are deeply touched by their experiences as they often have a lasting impact on them. They often withdraw because even small amounts of excitement fuels them for a long time. This kind of people lives in a "storage memory" world, analog to a hard drive.

    In general, the difference between the two is that for a person with hypersensitiveness an experience is always accessible so there is no need to re-experience it. Say, like being monogamous because once you know what sex looks like, having sex with other people pretty much loses the mystery.
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    For me, the interest in Socionics, comes from how closely the SLI descriptions matched my personality traits. Must be something to it if it hit's so close to home. Can't say I've ever delved too deeply into the theory, but hey that's an SLI trait too.
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