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    When Gilly refers to head, heart and gut triads those are the names of those groupings.

    234 are part of the heart triad

    567 are part of the head triad

    891 are part of the gut triad

    In a way that means that those types are driven by those sensibilities. That's not to say that 234 are all gushy morons and 567 are all heartless robots, but their type is sort of driven from those particular spaces.

    Does that make more sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbean View Post
    I appreciate you taking the time to do this.

    The closest I can think of that is to my heart is a one, but that is not it; so I am not 234.

    If I am in my head, then I am a six, with maybe some five.

    From my gut, I think I can identify in this order from most to least: 819.
    Well, I would guess that you are probably 6w5 head, which seems most like your primary type, and 8w9 gut. Which of the three heart triad types feels closest to you?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vero View Post

    Does that make more sense?
    That is not the issue, but thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Well, I would guess that you are probably 6w5 head, which seems most like your primary type, and 8w9 gut. Which of the three heart triad types feels closest to you?
    hmmm, that is a tough call. I'll think about this.
    "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
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    "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
    -- Mark Twain

    "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbean View Post
    Should I explain to you some of my personality traits?
    Sure
    But, for a certainty, back then,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Sure
    Here are a list of people I admire:

    Donald Trump
    Alex Jones
    Vladimir Putin
    Dave Thomas
    George Jenkins
    George Washington
    Andrew Jackson
    Napoleon Bonaparte


    I don't like to tell people my one and only big fear. What makes me happy is the process of getting stronger in some way. My purpose is to bring the new world order to justice as well as my personal enemies, and hopefully find something that I can expand on after that; I have a few ideas. I dislike disrespect overall. I think power = responsibility. I am good at: public speaking, learning a lot in a short period of time, organizing and conjuring up a structure, knowing how to enforce a system, and staying focused on something important. What I am not good at: compromising (although I am capable), being contained in a soft gay-like environment, being a social butterfly, not being inappropriate (this is sort of a 50/50 trait, sometimes I am the best at it, sometimes I am the worst), and philosophy without practicality or logic (I feel stupid admitting that).
    "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
    --Theodore Roosevelt

    "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
    -- Mark Twain

    "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in."
    -- Confucius

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    I remembered being called stupid and weak while I was a child, so that is when I started to find ways to make me smarter and stronger. I hated being less-than. The areas that I learned the best in are things that had to be put into categories and directly applicable to real life. I also did not like to skim for knowledge, I would rather delve deep into something until I knew it enough so that I knew what I was talking about. I have been on that move throughout most of my life. That is why I got into socionics, so that I knew enough about people so I could get an advantage over them, or at least have it so that they did not have an advantage over me.

    After thinking about it some, it is almost as if I am 8w9 while acting about, and 6w5 when learning or planning something.
    "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
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    "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
    -- Mark Twain

    "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in."
    -- Confucius

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    Donald Trump - SLE
    Alex Jones - SLE
    Vladimir Putin - LSI
    Dave Thomas - which one?
    George Jenkins - don't know who he is
    George Washington - ESI
    Andrew Jackson - not sure, maybe LIE
    Napoleon Bonaparte - SLE

    So lots of Betas and some Gammas, no Alphas.


    I don't like to tell people my one and only big fear.
    Definite points for E6 here.

    What makes me happy is the process of getting stronger in some way.
    More points for 6.

    My purpose is to bring the new world order to justice as well as my personal enemies, and hopefully find something that I can expand on after that; I have a few ideas. I dislike disrespect overall. I think power = responsibility. I am good at: public speaking, learning a lot in a short period of time, organizing and conjuring up a structure, knowing how to enforce a system, and staying focused on something important. What I am not good at: compromising (although I am capable), being contained in a soft gay-like environment, being a social butterfly, not being inappropriate (this is sort of a 50/50 trait, sometimes I am the best at it, sometimes I am the worst), and philosophy without practicality or logic (I feel stupid admitting that).
    Not so much Etype stuff here, but it does resonate overall with LSI.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbean View Post
    I remembered being called stupid and weak while I was a child, so that is when I started to find ways to make me smarter and stronger. I hated being less-than. The areas that I learned the best in are things that had to be put into categories and directly applicable to real life. I also did not like to skim for knowledge, I would rather delve deep into something until I knew it enough so that I knew what I was talking about. I have been on that move throughout most of my life. That is why I got into socionics, so that I knew enough about people so I could get an advantage over them, or at least have it so that they did not have an advantage over me.

    After thinking about it some, it is almost as if I am 8w9 while acting about, and 6w5 when learning or planning something.
    Hmmm, maybe a 3 fix for heart; I see assertive and competency in response to social pressure: not wanting to be "less-than" and striving to make yourself better in response.

    Definitely some 5 in preferring specialization to surface knowledge, also points Beta>Alpha. Classic surface trait of 6w5s: being the best at one thing so that they can both rely upon their skills, and be relied upon by others to increase their sense of social/intimate security.

    Some Se valuing in the idea of learning Socionics to gain a leg-up on people in interaction; ILEs might say something similar, but it would likely be more to the tune of doing it for either entertainment or something specifically goal-related, rather than coming from a primarily aggressive-defensive standpoint or as an overall asset/tool to possess.

    I really don't think an Alpha would have your same fixation on weakness. To be honest you seem very convincingly LSI to me in all regards, including your presence on cam.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbean View Post
    That is not the issue, but thanks.
    Oh, ok, sorry. Wasn't sure from your post
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