SFW xII

[717495]

Oh, and FWIW, your Unofficial Pics (and all the others I've seen) remind me a ton of some ILEs I've known, minus the caffeinated spastic-ness.

Hmm. I do think I VI similarly to ILEs in some ways. Although the look in both of our eyes seems very similar to one another--I could post better pictures to compare. I think one of those pictures you posted is a pretty good example.

I always got the feeling that "Jung = Evil, b/c Jung sorta/kinda = MBTI, and MBTI = Not Socionics, therefore Jung also = Wrong."

Well MBTI came before Socionics, but Socionics is actually closer to Jung than MBTI. The information elements are quite similar to these psychological types, which is what I meant, not archetypes. Although to be honest, you'll relate more or less to all four in your quadra. There's a function test they made for MBTI, which I think is actually closer to Socionics and Jung than the original MBTI functions are, and I always get INFP, aka Fi/Ne on those, which is probably an equally good bet for socionics Delta NFs to score.

[717495]

I found this to be really swell as well: Jung Fi Translation.

I'm not really sure how to describe it, but there's this penchant to bounce between loopy/absurd and "Meh"/"Whatever"/"OK" that I see in myself, I've noticed constantly in your posts, and I occasionally see in other Alpha/Delta folk. Maybe it's just Ne-subtype, but some who self-type as such don't really display the same thing.

Oh I definitely think it could be an Ne subtype thing, especially for IJs.

[Krig the Viking]

Sorry, I meant to respond to this sooner. Better late than never, though!

It may not play into your question too well; but I'd most likely think the second (Fi) and actually say the first (Ti).

I'm pretty confident at assessing people's opinions/feelings about others, but I blindly dismiss that a person could have positive opinions/feelings about me. There's really no reason that I shouldn't be able to gauge my own relationships, but I tokenly opt for the negative every time. Kind of a false humility, in a sense.

Interesting. If you are in fact a Delta NF (and based on this post and the subsequent ones, I'm intuitively feeling much more strongly that you are), and if your parents are Alphas, particularly Alpha Irrationals, you may be somewhat hesitant to express Fi opinions due to that upbringing. If your opinions on Fi were dismissed or not taken seriously growing up (in a completely well-meaning and loving way, of course), you may have developed a habit of not expressing them in general.

When you say you "blindly dismiss that a person could have positive opinions/feelings about me", is it that you publicly express doubts about people's positive opinions/feelings about you, but secretly have a pretty good idea of what they feel? Or is it that you honestly don't know what they feel about you, and you just assume they don't like you as a defensive measure?

On the other hand, I often struggle to assess how logical or accurate an argument is. That may be why I get so fixated on nitpicky points and churn out so many questions. It's not really that I'm trying to discover the logic of a system for myself, but I'm hoping to drop cues and spark the Ti in those who are really great at it (i.e. you) to let them publicly do their thing.

Naive as it sounds, I don't pore over your posts for accuracy, logic, or even common-sense. I simply deem you "trustworthy on smart stuff" and take your word on it. If everyone in the thread said I was SEE, I'd have sucked it up, nodded along, and adapted my schemas to make the typing fit.

This sounds a lot like Te/Fi valuing to me. The Fi method of determining truth is (ideally, anyway) to find a reliable source, and then take all information from that source at face value. The Ti method is to take in information from all sources, and then filter it all out according to whether or not it makes sense.

Expat had a good description of how this works, here: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...-question.html

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

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[Creepy-Pied Piper]

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[Krig the Viking]

That doubtless plays a big part in it and, in another sense, probably explains why trying to "self-type" has been so confusing. Simply put, I'm not objective in the least. For each type, I've built an idealized mental archetype of how they look and talk, behave and walk, and I compare myself to those over-specific images in my head. Whereas I've been looking for a 1-to-1 match, Socionic types are probably a little fuzzy. There's wiggle-room. Just as you surely aren't every other ILE, I'm not gonna be every other "whatever I am."

You sound more and more Delta NF to me. Delta NFs tend to be very good at understanding how people work (your mental archetypes of how people look, talk, behave, and walk), but less good at understanding how systems work, i.e., the details of socionics theory. It seems to me that you're interpreting each sociotype as a person, like a Delta NF would, and not as a logical system, like an Alpha NT would.

[eunice]

I'm really, really glad you were so open about this, 'cause, 23 years in, I've yet to meet anyone who can relate. To be fair, I don't get out much; but most of what you've talked about (experiences, interests, and all) sounds like it was ripped straight from my head.

How you pull off perfect English and Chinese, I don't think I'll ever know. Seems to me it's two completely different ways of thinking about things (well, visually, at least) and now you toss in Hangul, and it's kinda like... I hope you stay sane.

As for the "typing people of other cultures" thing, do you find that your typings change much as you gain fluency in a person's language, or have they stayed pretty consistent when transitioning from (mostly) non-verbal cues?

Haha.....I'm still sane from the last time I have checked. J/k.

I am required to study both English and Mandarin in school from the age of five onwards, as it is part of the core curriculum here. In addition, passing English and Mandarin at pre-university level (which is equivalent to the high school diploma in the States) is a pre-requisite to enter the local universities. I have friends who get all distinctions for other core subjects e.g. Maths, Physics, Chemistry, but were not able to get into the local universities at all because they had failed Mandarin. So I guess it helps to learn to be fluent.

As for Korean, I took up the language mainly out of interest for the culture. There are a lot of words which the language has adopted from Mandarin, making memorization of the vocabulary easier.As long as you memorize the vowels and consonants, you can read any Hangul characters (even though whether you understand the words/phrase or not is another question). I just started learning Korean early this year.

For my typings of people from other cultures, I realised that the typing "system" is consistent across all cultures. As such, my typings are still pretty consistent.

[eunice]

Btw, having had the opportunity to read more your posts these days, I think your type is Ne-INFj.

[Suz]

Btw, having had the opportunity to read more your posts these days, I think your type is Ne-INFj.

Not IEE? Why?

[717495]

In retrospect, maybe kinda dumb of me to have thrown that out there.

I need a VI-ban.

It's okay I'm used to it! A lot of us are used to it. Hah, but it still is kind of silly.

Those were really helpful links (a day in and I'm still working through 'em), but special thanks for the stuff at Socionix. Most the time, I just watch their chat box. Had no idea there was legit substance to read.

And, as for the Jung, you really set me straight. When you said "archetypes," I thought you meant the Anima, Shadow Monster, Fairy Godmother stuff... and got a little weirded out. The function test you shared seems to hit Jung's typings pretty solidly, but I'm really struggling to detach myself from how I "think" I should answer, based on all the type descriptions I've read over the years.

I could be wrong, but you seem kinda like a "testing expert" around here: How do you filter out the "response that sounds like what you've heard a million times" and answer honestly with "the response that really is you"?

Oh sorry about that. Well I think the best idea is to keep reading, keep hearing people's ideas, like I've heard some great themes of the IM values from that socionix forum, and I kept these in the back of my mind, and when the time comes in reality not theory, I think that's when it's the easiest to really know. When events or deciding factors occur, and after all you keep deciding in the process, else you can only judge as best as your knowledge of yourself, which keeps growing. I think that objective/subjective is a very useful distinction for understanding your place in the various functions, and say if you have an alpha family, you should be able to notice a greater, almost overlooked, essence of using subjective feeling, or introverted ethics (which yeah I'm making the direct distinction, but not from just that Jungian source) in yourself with a, I guess, internal clash with their outlook and values, whilst the alphas really embrace their objective ethics (which can be all too annoyingly deciding at times) and subjective logic, and these can be enlightened upon in those writings, but I think there is definitely more to be explained by what those terms stand for in Socionics, so I hope you stick around, and read around that other forum too, to understand it better. We're all still discussing it and learning about it.

I personally find that a large number of descriptions of the IMs are kind of stereotypically put, like being about relationships with people and a dominant being really intuitive about people, or whatever else you can think of, full of peace and respect (and I personally am a bit anti-social and not a skilled people person even though they tell me that INFjs are in their own way, in type descriptions), and they're not very distinctive understandings of internal processes going on, and they aren't inclusive to one IM or type, to deny or imply of any type these things is beyond me. They'll be always discussed on this forum, but its important to know above it all that there are some larger more essential differences, and those are the valid ones, the ones that count. It's essential to understand the character behind the moves, and that similar characters come from different walks of life.

[eunice]

Not IEE? Why?

Based on his writings, he seems more Rational than Irrational.

[Suz]

Based on his writings, he seems more Rational than Irrational.

How do you tell the difference?

[eunice]

How do you tell the difference?

Hmmmm....How should I put it in words......

His writings seem more structured and focused imo, but it's more of an impression I have gotten. I tend to find ENFps' writings as more random and likely to go off-topic at times.

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

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[Suz]

Don't know if anybody'll see this, but anyway:

Is the inability to disagree with what other people say (even when all logic suggests otherwise) indicative of a certain type, function, PoLR, or something?

I find myself, both in this thread and many others, almost completely unable to disagree with or argue against what anyone says. It's not a fear of "losing" an argument or a sense that I'd be an awful debater, but more a reluctance (or absolute inability) to make people unhappy or less happy.

I'd wager a guess as to what it means, but I've got no clue.

Sounds like an enneagram type 9 thing, actually. I was just reading about it!

Man, I kinda feel like an idiot now.

Somewhere along the way, I'd pegged you as the cynic or the critic of 16T; but, one-on-one-ish, you just seem like a really nice guy. Actually, from the last couple posts, you remind a lot of my dad's dad (an LII-Ti) who's always riding me to question and re-think everything.

What you've said and how you've said it isn't exactly what I wanted to hear, but pretty close to exactly what I needed. I'm looking for the quick answer, trying to simplify this stuff as fast as possible. Your suggestion to do the opposite, to expand and branch out, is initially kinda frustrating; but it's genuinely helpful.

You know, i felt the same way at first about polikujm, and after we started chatting, i found out what a nice guy he is and how much we have in common!

Pied Piper is the REAL cynic around here!!!

[717495]

What you've said and how you've said it isn't exactly what I wanted to hear, but pretty close to exactly what I needed. I'm looking for the quick answer, trying to simplify this stuff as fast as possible. Your suggestion to do the opposite, to expand and branch out, is initially kinda frustrating; but it's genuinely helpful.

Well maybe its somewhere in those relation descriptions: being the person who helps someone who doesn't want to hear it at first. Because this is who he is, the one who takes in new information one step at a time, and doesn't stay true to all the decisions he makes because he doesn't like to be closed minded, and he likes change and fresh perspectives. He wants to find all the various dynamics that go into theory by exploration and being in the wrong place at the wrong time, so to speak, in hope that he can gain some kind of advantage in the future, and he knows patience. He's the stereotypical MBTI perceiver.

And to me this might all be so subjective, so I can say something I don't mean anymore a week from now, but I know it will mean a lot to someone else, and that's fine. You shouldn't count it off as bull or nonsense, because its experience, feelings, ideas, knowledge. It's in a sense a type of decision that fits someone else better... and as for the perceiver he will keep searching.

So I'm very glad to hear you have a conscience about this. You seem like quite a nice and open-minded fellow yourself. I hope you find satisfaction and take it.

Actually, from the last couple posts, you remind a lot of my dad's dad (an LII-Ti) who's always riding me to question and re-think everything.

Hmm. Yeah I've seriously thought about being LII, and self typed that for a lengthy period. I think I've thought a lot about being Alpha NT and ILI. I fit the ILI descriptions the best (followed by ILE and the less social aspects of EII), but then when you look at ILI functionally, it doesn't really make a lot of sense for me, does it? (in the sense of many original Ni characterizations) So it depends on how you look at it. There are many factors that play in to Socionics concepts / ideas, and you can deny so many of them just so you can be right, but they're contradictory and that is inevitable--and that is where I am now, like always. I don't need someone making a decision for me, I like being uncertain, open to whatever there is, and thinking about it. I might not be Alpha NT, I might not be ILI, I might not be EII, or neither of these. Why should I care about your opinion? (you remind me of an LII I know) etc. Variance is all so typical anyway. Glad to see you're taking your time with it, and sorry you have to complement me in order for me to talk to you. A lot of this long theoretical and personal text is really draining on me, and I mostly ignore it.

[Exodus]

New datas!

: VI-Power! / No Socionics! / Me unscripted!

: Me unscripted. / Chaotic, confusing. / Lacks thematic cohesion. / Worthless for typing?

1000 Random Questions with CILi

Definitely

Don't know if anybody'll see this, but anyway:

Is the inability to disagree with what other people say (even when all logic suggests otherwise) indicative of a certain type, function, PoLR, or something?

YES. It means you're definitely not a type; probably an introverted ethical type.

I would guess EII or SEI. But if you really are anxious about health etc. I would say EII.

[EyeSeeCold]

Fi Leading definitely. The smile.
Doesn't know enough to get that second function though.

[stray]

YES. It means you're definitely not a type; probably an introverted ethical type.

Are you serious? Or do you actually think Ti is that badass?

I don't care if I'm mistyped (I could be), but that sounds too specific to be type related. I'd have to say that a lot of my behavior entails disagreement of some kind.

Either way, Cili, your video was funny. I thought you were SEI.

[Exodus]

Are you serious? Or do you actually think Ti is that badass?

I don't care if I'm mistyped (I could be), but that sounds too specific to be type related. I'd have to say that a lot of my behavior entails disagreement of some kind.

Definitely type related. Use of primarily. Also the wanting to make people happy could be + .

[Suz]

great video CILi!!!

LOL @ "Nice Guy" on the tombstone.

And your description of your ideal woman .... "what she types like..." Looking for a woman here CILs?? sending some subliminal messages there? j/k


I still stand by delta NF. I keep going back and forth on EII vs IEE. Though the anxiety about health does strongly suggest EII > IEE to me.

You remind me a lot of Chuck on that TV show.

[Pa3s]

Awesome video, seriously! This is roughly a million times better than most of what I've seen from people who think it's cool to make a video in which they talk about their (possible) type. You're quite creative. I can actually relate to a lot what you've said. (Except for that girls clothings things maybe... :wink But I also have those anxiety issues with people and situations and so on. Your image of an ideal woman is identical with mine for the most part. And your tombstone engraving is priceless!

An for the typing: I agree with EII. I'm quite certain this fits best.

EDIT: While watching the video, I could also see possible differences between our styles of communication. While you can transport what you've said in manner that actually makes people think "Yeah, he seem to be a nice guy.", this wouldn't be the same with me. I may agree with the most things you said and if I answered those questions similarly, it would probably sound much more matter-of-fact-like.

[Nowisthetime]

Yeah, good video, I think EII. But it feels like you are in character. It would be great to see you like you really are. If it's possible. But maybe it's complex.

[Bardia]

Yeah, good video, I think EII. But it feels like you are in character. It would be great to see you like you really are. If it's possible. But maybe it's complex.

Yes, it does seem like he's putting on a show a bit. I would say... SEI>IEI=EII

[Suz]

Considering you and THA both brought the health thing up, is it really that much bigger for Si-HAs (LII/EII) than you and other Si-DSs (IEE/ILE)?

FWIW, I clipped a good minute or so of "hypochodriatic rambling" from the vid's final cut.

I dont know, maybe. What i know is that my EII sister tends to have these ridiculous (imo) episodes fear about some disease. Like last summer when she freaked out about getting Eastern Equine Encephalitis after being bitten by a lot of mosquitos. We were supposed to take a trip together, and she basically called it off because she was so worried that she might get encephalitis during our trip. Or she'll have this weird notion about microwaves causing cancer so she doesn't use the microwave at all, and wont eat anything microwaved.

Well, say I got bitten by the bunch of mosquitos--I probably would be worrying in the back of my mind that i might get EEE but i would be telling myself "shush, no need to fear until it actually happens, I'll rest today, try to get the itching better so i can go out and do the stuff i wanted to do."

And i do use the microwave--it's quicker and makes my life easier. And i dont think microwaves cause cancer. If they did, EVERYONE would have cancer.

Worth watching much? (In between Bollywood flicks, of course.)

LOL, u've been watching the bollywood movies? which ones have u seen so far?

And yeah i recommend "Chuck". It's a cute show. I saw a few seasons of it but i got a little bored of it this season. That and i'm running around doing a million things!

I'm glad you guys(/girl) straight-up mentioned that, actually, as I thought much the same while editing clips together and stuff.

I ran the same vid past my dad, younger brother, and a co-worker asking more or less, "Like, who the heck is this? I can't seriously look/talk/act like that." And, regrettably, ...they, more or less, said I kinda did.

A Theory: I seldom speak (at all), 'cause I'm busy running ideas through my head a couple dozen times before spewing 'em out. (Hence the painfully long pauses.) By the time I actually do say something, it's been so pared down, edited, and rehearsed that it comes out, as you saw, cloyingly theatrical. It feels very rehearsed (and it looks very rehearsed) because, indirectly, it very much is.

("If I could change one thing about myself", well, ...that'd be a GREAT one.)

Yeah i dont think that "act" was Fe-ego. Not in the least.


Re: you being friends with a lot of ILEs,
a) are you sure you typed the "ILEs" correctly?
b) you would be their supervisor, so it's not out of the question that you would like them. Besides, i know some supervisor-supervisee friends who are like best friends, since they grew up together (well that's assuming I typed them correctly )

[ashlesha]

New datas!

1000 Random Questions with CILi

omg. i this. can i come over and we can play yahtzee or something?

a few things i feel like pointing out even though they don't have to do with my opinion of your type:

1. you come across a lot more extroverted (in a stereotypical sense) than i expected.

2. your voice is super soothing, lol. it stood out to me.

3. what on earth was that video clip from? hahahahahaha.

anyway, my impression is delta NF. EII>IEE. i'm not seeing alpha NT, though i don't really feel comfortable trying to articulate why because its more about vibe. you seem NeNeNe, very personable, and i get the impression you trust your feelings in a way that i associate more with Fi egos than Ti egos (like how definitive you were in saying "what she types like," no disclaimers or anything). if it was between SEI and alpha NT, though, i would probably go with SEI. i'm just not digging a logical type for you. /two pennies

[Beautiful sky]

Thinker, Perceptual type. You're not a rational.

[Marie84]

New datas!

: VI-Power! / No Socionics! / Me unscripted!

: Me unscripted. / Chaotic, confusing. / Lacks thematic cohesion. / Worthless for typing?

1000 Random Questions with CILi

wow

Maybe EII-C? Was wondering about SEI as well, but the part about dealing with that type of anxiety sounds odd, from what I understand, in Si dominants

btw hope you're not being serious about 168, you're a cool funny guy, lots of women would love you, don't sell yourself short

[Pa3s]

I'm almost 24, WorkAnon, ...my clock is ticking.

Hahahaha...

Means a lot coming from you, Harry.

It was well deserved. :wink:

In re: "Images of an Ideal Woman", I'm really relieved someone can kinda relate. Dating's kinda rough when you're "Looking For: Well, pretty much anyone."

Don't worry too much about that. I'm actually not planning to live alone my whole life, too. But I'll take care of this if the time's right, no need to hurry now. I'm actually quite passive about that issue, at least atm.

PS: I love the sig. (And your Sociotype!)

Of course you do. You are one of those people on here who proposed something it that direction. I'm actually surprised I didn't doubt it again until now. Maybe my restless spirit will finally find peace?

From the way you put all that, I'd be really interested to see you in-person/on-video/live/whatever.

Well, when I finished my studies and may start my career as janitor's assistant I'll maybe visit America (if that's the country you're living in but I guess so). Who knows? Otherwise I don't have any kind of video gear right now and I'm a bit undecided if I really want to cross this line. :wink: j/k I actually thought about making a video, but as I said, I have no good camera.

"Matter-of-fact"-ness and looking like "not a nice guy" don't appear very clearly to me from your posts. Sooner or later, it sems most everyone gets into a spat or loses their cool somewhere on the forum, but I've yet to see you get even slightly rattled.

Maybe I'm not looking hard enough, but level-headed, kind, and friendly is pretty much how I see your "online persona" to-a-T.

Haha, thanks! Maybe I worded it unprecisely... it's not that many people think I'm unfriendly. But I'm very reserved towards strangers, at least more than others. It takes a lot of time or conversation until I can 'open up' a bit. I also mostly don't even make an attempt to socialise and actually get to know people (sometimes also because I don't want or because I'm not interested). That's why most people think I don't care about anyone. But later, they know I'm helpful and I get things done in team work, so I get along well with most people. I'm also not someone who 'asks for trouble'. :wink: However, I'll protect my interests if necessary.

Oh, and I already was pissed about things on the forum, but I just don't react in a manner which changes the way I write my posts.

Thinker, Perceptual type. You're not a rational.

What on earth makes him a thinker? Sorry, you have to explain that to me.

[krieger]

You seem ENFp. No idea what has you all fixated on being rational.

[Pa3s]

I'd been meaning to ask for the longest time (and now's as good as any, I guess), how'd the "person" in "that thread" turn out a couple months back? Was the 16T advice helpful (or the very opposite)?

Ahh, now I remember what you mean! It really took a while to remember. Well, it will disappoint you and everyone else and people will think I'm a loser and so on and so forth, but I didn't ask at the end. (Sorry everyone for wasting your time, but I'll remember those advices later, so thanks anyway.) I wasn't scared or too shy, but after a while I somehow did not even want to ask or do anything else. She is more the type of regular 'friend' person to me, I couldn't image her being my girlfriend since we are quite different. So I didn't want to raise expectations I won't fulfil at the end and decided not to begin it. It's not that she doesn't meet my 'high standards' or anything like that, but I thought this relationship would not have been very intersting for both of us.

Hey, that's perfect!

Janitor's get the whole summer off (well, in America, anyway), so you'll be free to do whatever the heck you want!

Ah, you know, there is this one Hotel, they're looking for a janitor for the time during the winter who takes a look at the old heating stove. It's called "Overlook". I think I'll do it. I'll bring my family and an axe for wood chopping purposes.

I read you now.

...scary

Paired with your other post, that makes lots of sense (and even sounds pretty familiar). Personally, I'm kinda interested to see what happens when/if you "blow your top", as I pretty much have no idea what to expect. In the same light, those people you feel "think you don't care about anyone" may share some of my curiosity. It's less a negative "MD's bad" thing than a neutral "So what's this MD guy like, anyway?".

Maybe throw 'em for a loop some time: Mix it up and let loose The Doomer.

Hahaha, yeah I guess you got what I wanted to say. You may be right with your opinion that other people don't think I'm a bad guy, but rather don't know enough about me. I'm currently surprised how positive the reactions among my fellow students towards me are. (They know me only for some month.) I'm not 'blowing my top' very often, it generally happens extremely seldom. The typical trigger situation is the arrogant or abnormal demanding behavior of other people. If they treat me badly or like a servant. If I really freak out (which happened less than 3 or 4 times in my family circle, but a little more frequently among my friends) I start to shout and typically tell the person what's currently not okay for me. Unfortunately, I have the habit of taking insults very personally and sometimes I'm also very enraged by that.

[ashlesha]

I'm sitting here trying to find a good adjective for just how helpful that was (extremely, amazingly, incredibly, etc.), but they all sound lame. Whatever the case, the detail you gave there was a really pleasant and much enjoyed surprise.

Very thoughtful.

haha, you're very welcome, but the quoted synopsis you have there made me lol in my cubicle bc i hadn't realized how scattered my little summarized opinion was. Ti, shmee-i! but if you were able to take something from it, hey, cool.

[Timeless]

You have a big:



For sure.

I have a question for you:

What are some of your pet peeves? What bothers or irritates you? What do you dislike? If there's one complaint you have about people or things, what is it?

[Exodus]

Main Complaint: Exclusivity, clique-iness, and an "I'm/we're better than you" mentality.

I wanna be friends with everyone and have fun with everyone, be it the upper-crust hipster dude downtown or a bum in a box down the street. The hipster's a person, the bum's a person, I'm a person. We's all "people". But why can't we all hang out and enjoy each other? More likely than not, the first'll say I'm not "good enough" for his gang, while the latter'll say he's not "good enough" for mine.

Naked, we pretty much all look the same, talk the same, walk the same, smell the same; but, once dolled-up or dolled-down, society says we've gotta live in different worlds. To be limited in who I can interact with, by their own choice or anyone else's, is really, really frustrating for me.

(Reading that all back now, it sounds kinda people-Ne-ish, whatever type that'd be. I want limitless options and possibilities with who I talk to, who I meet, who I know, and who I spend time with. Though, ironically, despite all that, I'm kind of a hermit.)

Hmm, yeah, you're sounding a lot more like an SEI now. Valuing to the max.

[Timeless]

Though, ironically, despite all that, I'm kind of a hermit.)

Any specific examples you can derive from that?

Lesser Stuff: Resumes, interviews, and all things "job search".

Competing for work (which I don't really want to do all that much anyway) isn't my thing. To "beat" someone (or many "someone"s) to a position makes me feel kinda sad.

Long before that, though, "selling myself" is hell. Racking up a list of credentials is fake and meaningless to me; thus, in high school, college, and beyond, I never did it. And now my resume shows it.

Interviews, FWIW, are kind of a mixed bag nowadays. For years, I was terrified, anxious, and panicky; now I'm too much the opposite: laid-back, carefree, and non-chalant. Professionalism, bureaucracy, suit-and-tie, stuffiness, red tape, rules, laws, and "do it 'cause you're s'pposed to" are a bit much for me.

Speaking of job and work, what is it you do? And is it what you really want to do? If not, what kind of job/work is it that you want to do?

P.S.: You might got something in your Ego that's in my Ego. (...Or maybe the other way around.)

But, either way, something keeps giving me vibes.

(And I don't even like vibes.)

Don't mind me, I'm just upside down.

[Creepy-male]

you're sounding a lot more like an SEI now

Yeah, I was thinking this, just of my own accord, not in relation to the thread at all (which I haven't read!)

CILi, you're kind of a hit-and-run jokester like me. You seem to wander into threads, be a goofball, then wander out. But Timeless does this as well a bit, so I don't know.

[Creepy-male]

I just do it to b a goofball, largely to make myself laugh. Hopefully other people find it amusing.

In person I can more directly see how people are reacting, so I definitely am a clown for the express purpose of making people do anything from smirk to cackle like a maniac.

[Slacker]

I just watched your video, and as i watched it I was thinkign, "Oh he's SO Delta NF, but everyone is going to think I'm crazy or projecting for thinking that!" And then I read the thread and most people seem to think that!

I think you could be IEE as easily as EII. Not sure which but I wouldn't get too stuck on one over the other. And Maritsa just doesn't like other people to be seen as EII so don't pay attention to her.

[Krig the Viking]

I just watched your video, and as i watched it I was thinkign, "Oh he's SO Delta NF, but everyone is going to think I'm crazy or projecting for thinking that!" And then I read the thread and most people seem to think that!

I think you could be IEE as easily as EII. Not sure which but I wouldn't get too stuck on one over the other. And Maritsa just doesn't like other people to be seen as EII so don't pay attention to her.

I just watched the video too, and this was also my impression. I'm leaning toward IEE, personally. I didn't get strong "extravert" vibes, but I did get pretty strong "irrational" vibes.

Unfortunately, there's no such thing as an introverted irrational Delta NF.

[Park]

IEE > SEI