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    You can't really avoid that shows get worse over time, but as a positive example, I think South Park aged well compared to other popular shows. It is still original and authentic in my opinion, just as it used to be.
    I agree, because South Park has a lot of things going for it. Primarily, each episode takes about 5 days to make. This means that the producers can stay ahead of the game by dealing with current-day topics as they're happening and not having to resort to them after the fact. As such, it's a lot easier for the show to remain fresh because they're constantly supplied with new material.

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    Homer - SEE



    Bart - SEI



    Lisa - EII



    Marge - ESE



    Maggie - SLI



    Mr. Burns - LIE



    Ned Flanders - EII

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    How can you type Maggie?

    Why is the lazy and feckless Homer a Se dominant? Why is the hyperactive and mischievous Bart an IP?
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    Pretty Ne/Si heavy overall

    Homer Simpson - Ne-ENTP
    Marge Simpson - Si-ISFP
    Bart Simpson - Ti-ENTP
    Lisa Simpson - Fi-ENFP
    Ned Flanders - Fi-INFJ
    Moe Szyslak - Te-INTP
    Milhouse Van Houten - Ti-INTJ
    Reverend Timothy Lovejoy - Te-ISTP
    Apu Nahasapeemapetilon - Fi-ISFJ
    Marion "Fat Tony" D'Amico - Fe-ENFJ
    Montgomery Burns - Si-ESTJ
    Waylon Smithers - Ne-INFJ
    Comic Book Guy - Ti-ENTP
    Nelson Muntz - Se-ESTP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat King Cole View Post
    How can you type Maggie?

    Why is the lazy and feckless Homer a Se dominant? Why is the hyperactive and mischievous Bart an IP?
    Homer uses so much it's insane! He's always out and about doing something. He may be lazy at work, but when he's on an adventure, he's always energized and doing something. You can see him use constantly when around his family and he uses it to his advantage such as neighbours like Ned Flanders who is an EII.

    You don't know many SEI's do you? SEIs can be hyperactive and mischievous. My brother is an SEI and since he was a kid he was always off an about simply doing things. When he's not doing something, he's usually just watching television. However, he goes with the flow, if something comes along he'll jump along for the ride.
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    That's not Se. And of course he's out-and-about, or else wtf kind of show would we be watching?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
    That's not Se. And of course he's out-and-about, or else wtf kind of show would we be watching?
    His behaviour is similar to SEEs I know in real life. Also, it kind of proves my point of why they'd choose an SEE as their title character, but to each their own I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traveler View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cat King Cole View Post
    How can you type Maggie?

    Why is the lazy and feckless Homer a Se dominant? Why is the hyperactive and mischievous Bart an IP?
    Homer uses so much it's insane! He's always out and about doing something. He may be lazy at work, but when he's on an adventure, he's always energized and doing something. You can see him use constantly when around his family and he uses it to his advantage such as neighbours like Ned Flanders who is an EII.

    You don't know many SEI's do you? SEIs can be hyperactive and mischievous. My brother is an SEI and since he was a kid he was always off an about simply doing things. When he's not doing something, he's usually just watching television. However, he goes with the flow, if something comes along he'll jump along for the ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traveler View Post
    His behaviour is similar to SEEs I know in real life. Also, it kind of proves my point of why they'd choose an SEE as their title character, but to each their own I guess.
    I really don't see how he's not Ne or Fi-PoLR, or how he's gamma, but we'll agree to disagree.

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    For one, I can't imagine an ILE or an IEE strangling the hell out of Bart like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traveler View Post
    You don't know many SEI's do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat King Cole View Post
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    You don't know many SEI's do you?
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    Thanks for the chuckle.
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    Homer - Se-SxE, Ne-ILE can also work
    Bart - ESTp or ENTp Ti-sub, LSI Se-sub
    Lisa - EII, IEE, ILI
    Marge - SEI Si-sub, ESE Si-sub
    Flanders - ESE, SEI Fe-sub, LSE
    Milhouse - EII, LII
    Burns - ILI, LII, SLI
    Smithers - IEI, EIE, IEE
    Moe - ILI, SLE, ESI

    Quote Originally Posted by Cat King Cole View Post
    Why is the lazy and feckless Homer a Se dominant? Why is the hyperactive and mischievous Bart an IP?
    Se can be associated with pleasure and adventure seeking tendencies that seem to fit Homer's personality quite well. Bart actually has that same streak but he is more deliberate in seeking out his sources of enjoyment than Homer, who is more dreamy/clueless in comparison. Ne-ILE typing would also work, though I think Homer is more sensory kind of seeking, so Se fits him better.

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    i dont really see him as Se. he seems really unfocused, on abstract and complicated tangents, and says lots of Ne things.

    even though hes borderline retarded

    as for Fe > Fi, i guess just look at bender's Fe vs fry's Fi, since theyre the same creator. so overall just seems like an obvious typing.

    i thought about ESFP, but couldnt get it to fit. homer is pretty much a more stuck in his imagination/more physically handicapped/less physically aware version of bender. look-a-likes, rather than comparatives
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    For one, I can't imagine an ILE or an IEE strangling the hell out of Bart like that
    When he's strangling Bart, there is no resonance or connection with him as a human, like say you would have if you were to strangle someone, or really a subjective awareness. Everything he does/says seems Fi-PoLR and to back Fe. His emotional reasoning comes across a lot more purposefully objectified than what I see in Fi types, ie. for prevalence's sake, Homer's comparative type from the other show, Fry. Maybe this was a tactic for supplying emotional stimulation to the population of viewers, that was influenced by one of the creators (to make his personality more Fe.) Also, both main characters seem to back Ne-INFJ Groening's primary format of comedy.

    Here's a principal video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zVCN6SFFzg#t=0m40s

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    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
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    i dont really see him as Se. he seems really unfocused, on abstract and complicated tangents, and says lots of Ne things.

    even though hes borderline retarded

    as for Fe > Fi, i guess just look at bender's Fe vs fry's Fi, since theyre the same creator. so overall just seems like an obvious typing.

    i thought about ESFP, but couldnt get it to fit. homer is pretty much a more stuck in his imagination/more physically handicapped/less physically aware version of bender. look-a-likes, rather than comparatives
    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    For one, I can't imagine an ILE or an IEE strangling the hell out of Bart like that
    When he's strangling Bart, there is no resonance or connection with him as a human, like say you would have if you were to strangle someone, or really a subjective awareness. Everything he does/says seems Fi-PoLR and to back Fe. His emotional reasoning comes across a lot more purposefully objectified than what I see in Fi types, ie. for prevalence's sake, Homer's comparative type from the other show, Fry. Maybe this was a tactic for supplying emotional stimulation to the population of viewers, that was influenced by one of the creators (to make his personality more Fe.) Also, both main characters seem to back Ne-INFJ Groening's primary format of comedy.

    Here's a principal video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zVCN6SFFzg#t=0m40s
    Well damn - that clip is as all hell!

    The problem is that there's hundreds of Homer Simpsons, with so many different writers, seasons, episodes; there's a lot of inconsistencies, as well as a general drift of the character... the Homers in the earliest episodes are far removed from the Homers of 2011 and close-by...
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    Yep, I really haven't stayed in touch with a lot of new Simpsons. I'm just looking back on what I've overall noticed. Obviously the very first episodes were different (noticeably: animation, character, voices, plot) and then evolved from there in a fair proportion of its catchiness. I guess we may type him more than once based on the given generation.

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    List copied from poli:

    Homer Simpson - SEI or SEE
    Marge Simpson - ESI
    Bart Simpson - SLE
    Lisa Simpson - IEE, maybe EII
    Ned Flanders - EII
    Moe Szyslak - SLI
    Milhouse Van Houten - LII
    Reverend Timothy Lovejoy - SLI
    Montgomery Burns - LIE
    Waylon Smithers - ESI
    Comic Book Guy - ILI
    Nelson Muntz - SLE

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    Every now and then there is a new Simpsons thread. My current typings:

    Homer: SEI
    Bart: SLE
    Lisa: ego
    Marge: leading
    Barney Gumble: Ne-ENTp
    Moe: LSI
    Apu: LIE
    Comic guy: ILI
    Mad Scientist: ILE
    Flanders: serious
    Willy: delta ST
    Burns: LIE
    Smithers: ESI
    Troy McClure: SEE or LIE
    Chief Wiggum: ego
    Lenny and Carl: SLI, IEE
    Milhouse: ILI
    Nelson: SLE
    Martin: ILE
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    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
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    When he's strangling Bart, there is no resonance or connection with him as a human, like say you would have if you were to strangle someone, or really a subjective awareness. Everything he does/says seems Fi-PoLR and to back Fe. His emotional reasoning comes across a lot more purposefully objectified than what I see in Fi types, ie. for prevalence's sake, Homer's comparative type from the other show, Fry. Maybe this was a tactic for supplying emotional stimulation to the population of viewers, that was influenced by one of the creators (to make his personality more Fe.) Also, both main characters seem to back Ne-INFJ Groening's primary format of comedy.

    Here's a principal video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zVCN6SFFzg#t=0m40s
    Well damn - that clip is as all hell!

    The problem is that there's hundreds of Homer Simpsons, with so many different writers, seasons, episodes; there's a lot of inconsistencies, as well as a general drift of the character... the Homers in the earliest episodes are far removed from the Homers of 2011 and close-by...
    Agreed, Homer can appear ego at times or ego, but I think his main personality is SEE and he branches off to random personality types for specific episodes.
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    Homer - SEI
    Marge - ESI
    Bart - SLE
    Lisa - EII
    Ned - LSE (maybe)
    Milhouse - IEI
    Nelson - SLE
    Willy - ILI
    Chief Wiggum - SEE

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    bump for enneagramz

    Homer - 9w8 sp
    Marge - 1w9? sp/sx
    Bart: 3w4 so/sx?
    Lisa - 6w5 sx/sp?
    Ned - 1w2 so/sp
    Milhouse - 6w5 sp/so
    Moe - 5w6 sp/sx
    Skinner - 1w9 sp/so
    Otto - 9w8 sp?
    Groundskeeper Willie - 8w9 sx/sp? sp/sx?
    Comic Book Guy - 6w5 sp/so
    Martin - 6w5? 9w1? so/sp
    Nelson - 6w7 sx
    Edna Krabapple (R.I.P Marcia Wallace ) - 2w3 / 3w2
    Mayor Quimby - 3w2 so/sp
    Burns - 1w9? 5w6? sp/so
    Smithers - 9w1 sp/so

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    My knowledge of enneagram is limited but I will try:

    Homer SLI 9w8
    Marge LSE 2w3
    Lisa IEE 3w4
    Bart SLE 7w6
    Moe ESE 6w5
    Flanders EII 9w1
    Mr. Burns LII 1w9
    Smithers SEI 2w1
    Comic guy ILI 5w4
    Nelson ESE 8w7
    Milhouse ILE 6w7

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    I've always viewed homer as ILE for some reason. he was an inventor, he has no sense of personal space with others, and has hilariously insignificant thought processes.

    i once had an ILE tell me what went on in his brain.

    a balloon rises into the air, and pops.

    that is all.

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    Homer: SEI-Si 9w8
    Bart: SLE-Se 7w8
    Lisa: IEI-Ni 1w9
    Marge: ESI-Fi 9w1
    Mr Flanders: EII-Fi 1w9
    Mr Burns: LIE-Te 3w4
    Smithers: ESI-Fi 6w7
    Principal Skinner: LSI-Ti 1w2
    Patty: ESI-Se 6w5
    Selma: ESI-Se 6w5
    Professor Frink: ILE-Ne 5w6
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    I think

    Homer - SEE He's my inner child.
    Marge - SEI
    Bart - SLE
    Lisa - EII
    Ned - ESE

    as close as I can tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek Caan View Post
    Homer - SEE
    Marge - SEI
    Bart - SLE
    ...
    Ned - ESE
    I agree with your typings.

    Marge has a similar character and temperament as my mom. ( + caregiver)
    Ned Flanders is basically the male version of my aunt. Can't see Ned as introvert. ( + )

    Homer and Bart share Ep temperament and I can't see them having intution as their ego function.

    Homer - SEE and Bart - SLE fits.

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    Lisa - EII
    Lisa - EII or IEE-Fi

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    The collective typings here are atrocious! And if you can't correctly type The Simpsons and you've been here for several years, then you should probably get lost because The Simpsons has the most exaggerated socionic types & type relations possible without wearing tags that declare their types. Let's go through the ones that are correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater
    Mr. Burns LIE
    Smithers ESI
    These are correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater
    Comic shop owner ILI
    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe
    Comic Book Guy: ILI
    Moe: I agree with ILI
    Herb: SEE
    Flanders: LSE (Supervision as the source of animosity between him and Homer makes the most sense.)
    Principal Skinner: LSI
    These are correct too. Herb vs. Homer is a textbook relationship of extinguishment. Principle Skinner couldn't be more LSI if he tried. Comic Book Guy and Milhouse are parodies of ILI's like Dwight from The Office. Flanders is LSE ("The LSE does not change over time. Instead he becomes more knowledgeable about those things he has cared about in the past.") Flanders has obvious PoLR, so people confusing him for ESE are forgiven, but the ESE's ethical core and emotional self does not change over time (Ethical -PoLR) while the LSE's subjects of intellectual attention do not change over time (Logical -PoLR). And Flanders and Homer share a classic supervision relationship.

    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe
    Marge: EII (Fi. Loyal to her family. Intensely deep feelings that she hides within herself. Her marriage to Homer, whose emotions and reactions are comparatively very shallow is supposed to be comical.)

    Lisa: IEE (Ne. She's the one always interjecting new ideas into discussions. Points out how the generalized situation looks whenever people get bogged down in specifics. Has unbridled optimism in her potential and future bordering on arrogance and egotism, as well as the potential of others. Deep humanistic streak. Shuns materialism. Considering the anti-intellectual environment she lives in, it all comes off as the more indicative of her type. Probably Matt Groening's dual and mouthpiece.)
    These are correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe
    Homer: SEI (Softhearted. The rest is a caricatured embodiment of the worst aspects of his type.
    -Si: sloth, gluttony, anti-intellectualism;
    -Fe: extreme bias, jealousy, shallow emotions, immediate uncritical emotions;
    -Te-PoLR: unproductive, inability to make sense of actions going on around him -- that's why he comes off as presumptuous and stupid.)
    Yup. "Homer is an SEI" is basically the running joke of the entire series.

    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe
    Bart: SLE (Kind of obvious. Super-ego relationship with him and Lisa that persistently leads to clashes of value.)
    Bart is the only one who is hard to type. Why? He has a super-ego relationship with Lisa, but he doesn't have an illusionary relationship with Homer who is SEI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterPrincipleTwo View Post
    The collective typings here are atrocious! And if you can't correctly type The Simpsons and you've been here for several years, then you should probably get lost because The Simpsons has the most exaggerated socionic types & type relations possible without wearing tags that declare their types. Let's go through the ones that are correct.



    These are correct.





    These are correct too. Herb vs. Homer is a textbook relationship of extinguishment. Principle Skinner couldn't be more LSI if he tried. Comic Book Guy and Milhouse are parodies of ILI's like Dwight from The Office. Flanders is LSE ("The LSE does not change over time. Instead he becomes more knowledgeable about those things he has cared about in the past.") Flanders has obvious PoLR, so people confusing him for ESE are forgiven, but the ESE's ethical core and emotional self does not change over time (Ethical -PoLR) while the LSE's subjects of intellectual attention do not change over time (Logical -PoLR). And Flanders and Homer share a classic supervision relationship.



    These are correct.



    Yup. "Homer is an SEI" is basically the running joke of the entire series.



    Bart is the only one who is hard to type. Why? He has a super-ego relationship with Lisa, but he doesn't have an illusionary relationship with Homer who is SEI.
    Pretty much agree with the two of you. The typings seem on point.. what about Lionel Hutz the schiesty lawyer and doctor Nick Riviera?

    Hutz EIE and Riviera LII?

    I could see SLE for hutz.. he's definitely a beta extrovert imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    I think the show is written from a Delta perspective.

    Homer: SEI (Softhearted. The rest is a caricatured embodiment of the worst aspects of his type.
    -Si: sloth, gluttony, anti-intellectualism;
    -Fe: extreme bias, jealousy, shallow emotions, immediate uncritical emotions;
    -Te-PoLR: unproductive, inability to make sense of actions going on around him -- that's why he comes off as presumptuous and stupid.)

    Burns: LIE (Caricature Se valuing EJ and caricature Gamma values like $$$, elitism, self-preservation. Inability to express warm emotions of any kind. He and Homer have clashing lifestyles and are portrayed as conflictors.)

    Smithers: ESI (Intensely loyal to Mr. Burns. His steward and protector.)

    Marge: EII (Fi. Loyal to her family. Intensely deep feelings that she hides within herself. Her marriage to Homer, whose emotions and reactions are comparatively very shallow is supposed to be comical.)

    Bart: SLE (Kind of obvious. Super-ego relationship with him and Lisa that persistently leads to clashes of value.)

    Lisa: IEE (Ne. She's the one always interjecting new ideas into discussions. Points out how the generalized situation looks whenever people get bogged down in specifics. Has unbridled optimism in her potential and future bordering on arrogance and egotism, as well as the potential of others. Deep humanistic streak. Shuns materialism. Considering the anti-intellectual environment she lives in, it all comes off as the more indicative of her type. Probably Matt Groening's dual and mouthpiece.)

    Milhouse: IEI (Sycophant, follower variety.)

    Flanders: LSE (Supervision as the source of animosity between him and Homer makes the most sense.)

    Comic Book Guy: ILI

    Moe: I agree with ILI.

    Herb (Homer's Brother): SEE (Productive, goal-oriented, and extremely willful. Gamma values. Nice, courteous guy.)

    Agnes: EIE (The bossy variant.)

    Principal Skinner: LSI (Calm and collected, in self control. LSI makes more sense than the other three IJs. Willing to carry out Agnes' commands.)

    Apu: Not sure, but I think ESE could sort of work, or even ILE.
    Agreed along with the other fellow.

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    But Si isn't sloth and gluttony and anti-intellectualism (and neither is any other function), though he could be an Si type and be that. But Homer isn't introverted. He's usually focused on everything going on around him.

    Mr. Burns is not an Ni victim type; and he's consistently selfish and greedy to the exclusion of everyone else, including Mr. Smithers. He's more an aggressor that makes other people his victims. And he ignores and disregards the relationships and personal feelings of everyone around him. And Fi in LIEs is supposed to be accepting (rather than producing), but that's not accepting at all. Oops, that's wrong. But is that supposed to be LIEs? This is more what I meant.

    This is wikisocion for Suggestive Function

    Suggestive function

    The suggestive function is also called the dual-seeking function or the fifth function. The subject finds it difficult to be overwhelmed by this element, since it perfectly complements and drives the activity of the leading function. The more it is present in his daily life, the more he will naturally adapt to its presence (see dualization). They are easily entertained by this kind of information, and its sustained presence creates a soothing psychological effect. If someone experiences a deficiency of it in his environment, he may attempt to supply it himself, but become soon exhausted. Unlike the mobilizing function, concentrated and prolonged doses from other people are received positively (depending somewhat on the individual's degree of dualization).
    People focus deeply on the use of this function in day-to-day life, always attempting to digest information received from the environment through this aspect of reality. This is because it complements the leading function, making an individual not only more understanding but more satisfied about their pursuits in the Ego.



    Don't think that sounds like Mr. Burns having suggestive Fi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subteigh View Post


    From the chart Lisa would be xNFJ , Bart ENTP, Homer ENxP and Marge xxFJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post


    From the chart Lisa would be xNFJ , Bart ENTP, Homer ENxP and Marge xxFJ.
    According to mbti everybody is N. But bart ILE cmon lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    According to mbti everybody is N. But bart ILE cmon lol
    I was using the big five chart Subt posted. I was generous with the leeway I gave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    According to mbti everybody is N. But bart ILE cmon lol
    To be fair, according to Socionics (or at least 16typers) everyone is ILE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    To be fair, according to Socionics (or at least 16typers) everyone is ILE.
    I can only think of two on the forum atm. Who am I missing? I know it is someone.
    NVM, you probably mean typing threads for celebs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    To be fair, according to Socionics (or at least 16typers) everyone is ILE.
    Uhm no

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    I can only think of two on the forum atm. Who am I missing? I know it is someone.
    NVM, you probably mean typing threads for celebs.
    I meant that people tend to type (or used to type) anyone as ILE that seems “cool” or “quirky”, especially Se egos. And from what I’ve seen of old forum posts a disproportionate number of people were typing themselves ILE. Maybe that’s abated now. I could be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post


    From the chart Lisa would be xNFJ , Bart ENTP, Homer ENxP and Marge xxFJ.
    I know I'm playing on myself for taking this seriously, but I think that

    Extroversion -> ? It's exactly what it says it is? Or does someone really want to say it's not? I would not be surprised, if so.
    In general, Te and Fe probably come off the most extroverted and then Se and then Ne last as probably kind of an introverted extrovert, if that makes sense.

    Openness -> Probably Ne and Se elements. Si and Ni can close themselves off to a degree and Te, Fe, Fi, and Ti can limit themselves by their own judgments. So Ne,Se > Te,Fe > Ni, Si > Ti, Fi

    agreeableness -> High EQ, probably should imply a higher prevalence of F ego, even if nobody is always agreeable, F egos included. Maybe people want to disagree that EQ is associated with F and that's fine. But typing seems to make much more sense to me this way. So imo.

    neurotiscism -> Possibly correlates well to Jungian one-sidedness. So types that haven't really developed their producing sides or have a hard time with them. They probably take themselves more serious (too serious?). So harder to dualize?

    conscientiousness -> Te and Fe probably very well. Loosely to Ti and Fi; it subjectively depends too much. Not so much Ne, Se, Ni, Si because they are irrational (or most simply just perceiving) elements.

    So...I don't know...Lisa E - introverted extrovert, Agreeable - more agreeable than disagreeable, high conscientious, some neuroticism, lots of openness.
    so opennness + introverted extrovert -> Ne over Se isn't bad thought imo
    somewhat agreeable (F generally) + high conscientiousness (Fe or Te with some Ti or Fi) + some neuroticism -> So high Te mobilizing (high conscientiousness) kind of makes sense with some Fi in the ego as a mild neurotic character.

    I don't know. Big 5 is kind of accurate imo. I know nobody is going to read that or understand it, but meh, I felt like saying that anyway.

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