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    Default Obsession with symmetry and information elements

    Is a Ti thing?

    I know I'm kind of anal about symmetry sometimes. Here's a case in point. I'll make a document and I want all the headers to look alike- have the same font style and size and take pains to insure it looks that way even when it's a personal document and I'm the only one reading it. It bothers me when one header doesn't quite match all the others even though its clear its a header. I could see how its a Ti thing- wanting internal consistency throughout. I would think a Te would be less concerned about making them look all uniform and more concerned about having headers clear enough to stand out.

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    i'm the same way. idk about "obsessed" but it really irks me if they don't match up, with the same spacing between the header and the narrative on each page. maybe Si HA?

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    Never knew a LII who didn't insist on symmetry wherever they could make it. I think it's a fixation caused by Ti itself, that it wants an opposite for everything. When I was a kid and bored, I would peck my finger on desks in diamond-shaped patterns.

    Whenever I make game maps, I feel this nearly irresistable urge to make the left and right sides of the map resemble each other. I have to focus myself on producing something that has real value in a fictional setting, to avoid resorting to the instinct for symmetry. (gets real tiring, real fast).

    i'm the same way. idk about "obsessed" but it really irks me if they don't match up, with the same spacing between the header and the narrative on each page. maybe Si HA?
    Fascinating! I didn't know that about EIIs.

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    I'm like this too. I know an LSE who enjoys maths because it's very precise, and an ESE who was forever extolling the beautiful side of maths.

    I think it's just a certain flavour of aesthetic appeal. Neatly organized and symmetrical things are good-looking by nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanks Arthur View Post
    I think it's just a certain flavour of aesthetic appeal. Neatly organized and symmetrical things are good-looking by nature.
    i dig it.

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    The LII domain before the data crash pointed out an image which was symmetrical and focused on a single, clear point. It said in the domain that this picture was both a good indicator for how the LII thinks and an image that he would relate to/like due to its symmetry and focus point, so wikisocion agrees with OP... or at least used to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeptic View Post
    The LII domain before the data crash pointed out an image which was symmetrical and focused on a single, clear point. It said in the domain that this picture was both a good indicator for how the LII thinks and an image that he would relate to/like due to its symmetry and focus point, so wikisocion agrees with OP... or at least used to.
    ok. it's important to me aesthetically but i don't know if i would describe it as representative of how i think, especially the idea of having a single focus point. so maybe the concept of symmetry is more important to Ti types in some fundamental way.

    i just like pretty looking documents.

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    I have this too, but it´s more an obsession with order. My room is very neatly organized, everything has its place.

    I think it´s more an E1/E9 thing, if you want to relate this to any personality typology.

    E1s want order for order´s sake, and E9s often find order and symmetry and things like this to be 'neat', 'good' and other adjectives, from my own experience. E9s, when prodded to do something, will often waste so much time with preparations and getting everything in order so that they can do the task.

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    What if I'm way too into symmetry... and odd numbers...?
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    I'm only weird about symmetry when it comes to my face (eyebrows for example), actually. Everything else just needs to be balanced.
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    No, I don't think obsession with symmetry, details, neatness, consistency etc. is a Ti thing. If anything, it may be related to OCD. Or general character traits.
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    I think it's a human thing. That's how we became good: line things up and build. It's what makes us better than animals.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

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    Yes I definitely like it. A lot of what you have mentioned to me seems like precision. To me, symmetry is important, especially in writing and specially. In terms of writing, I mean poetic symmetry. I like to write to iterations of something, like a phrase, and have them read almost the same but mean completely different things. In terms of spacial things, when I hear theories (scientifically especially) it annoys me if I can't see how all events would be the same from any perspective. I know I get a theory once the symmetry clicks. I'd say that abstract sort of symmetry thing is Ti/Ne - Ne/Ti

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    I like assymmetry.
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    It doesn't matter to me. I look for alignment; right, left or centered. That's all. Spacing and uniformity and such, I could care less about.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    This has to be a Si base thing. Harmony in symmetry. The slightest aesthetic deviations tend to bother them.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Not Si-base. The Si-base usually recognizes that breaks in symmetry are 1) necessary for beauty 2) occurs in nature.

    Most likely Si-HA. Might have to do with Ti too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reuben View Post
    Not Si-base. The Si-base usually recognizes that breaks in symmetry are 1) necessary for beauty 2) occurs in nature.

    Most likely Si-HA. Might have to do with Ti too.
    They tend to be dictatorial and controlling because nothing can be out of place. These personality traits are not characteristic of EII who tend to not mind their environment very much. Have you seen the Nazi, or any army march? Really, I could care less about such manners.
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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