Quote Originally Posted by The Ineffable View Post
I fully agree with this, that Rational Extraverted Logic attitude is basically equivalent with measuring and hard support for the facts. However, I was debating what Te essentialy is, and I find cherry picking in that reasoning all over the place...

Just for the record, I know this is not necessarily your view, though things are a bit mixed-up in your explanation: Te Accepting is not the same thing with Te Producing, meaning Te/j is different in attitude from Te/p. There is no need of this universal application and necessary conclusions of the Te in Irrational types.

Te as an IE is not the same thing with Te as function or in Ego.

While I know for a fact that Te Irrationals make use of probably as much measuring as - if not even more precise than - their Rational counterparts, I don't think the whole field of measuring is an inherent part of Te. In fact I don't think the applicability of any function is dependent of a constructed system of scaling. In my view Te could have been used in the Stone Age with no problem.
Functional attitudes are a bit different yes, but I was more referring to the information being conveyed which is the IE. The most basic Te measurement is like 2 apples vs 1 apple, or many apples vs few apples, this is possible with the most rudimentary of mental processes and tools. It's also important to recognize that this is large a difference of approach, a base might assess a factor thru a glance while a type might require a more through "due" diligence. However rational judgements leads to decisions which may resist future "due diligence" while irrational perceptions still can undergo the due diligence.

Another common example of say sensing vs rationality that's easy to observe is cooking recipes.

a "pinch" of salt vs salt to taste vs 1 teaspoon of salt.

This is quite a bit difference a pinch is , salt to taste is , where as 1 teaspoon of salt is .

A pinch is an objective act but not measurable strictly, it can also vary based on how big one's pinch is, nevertheless this is still quite objective action.

Salt to taste is based on the cook's individual preference and taste.

1 teaspoon of salt is a precise measurement. The pinch and salt to taste can vary based on what that individual might observe see as far as the amount needed, but 1 teaspoon remains 1 teaspoon(however it's quantity may change in relation to the amount of other ingredients).

These directions also work for different individuals, some individuals will have a natural aptitude of using one pinch of salt and getting the dish perfectly salted, I know some individuals who just do this perfectly, they can also do things like get the weight of a pound of fish perfect as well as a 4 oz filet of fish and things like this without a tool. Some others prefer to get the taste just right via tasting. Others have to follow a recipe as they can't get it right without a recipe.