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    Zidane - ESE-Fe 7w6 sx/so
    Dagger - LII-Ti 3w4 sp/sx
    Vivi - IEI-Fe 4w5 so/sp
    Steiner - LSE-Te 6w5 so/sp
    Freya - LSI-Se 6w5 sx/so
    Eiko - EIE-Fe 7w8 so/sx
    Quina - ILE-Ne 7w8 sp/sx (fucking weird combo, but Quina is pretty fucking weird, lol)
    Amarant - ILI-Te 6w5 sp/sx

    Kuja - EIE-Ni 3w4 sp/sx
    Garland - LIE-Te 8w9 so/sp
    Regent Cid - IEE-Fi 3w2 so/sx
    Queen Brahne - SLE-Ti 8w7 sp/sx
    Dr. Tot - ILE-Ne 6w7 so/sp
    Beatrix - SLE-Ti 3w4 sx/so

    (The rest are vaguer impressions, as they are minor characters)
    Baku - LSE-Si 8w9 sx/so
    Marcus - ESI-Se 6w5 sx/sp
    Zorn and Thorn - IEI-Fe 4w3 sx/so
    Ruby - SLE-Ti 7w8 sx/so
    Cinna - ESE-Si 9w8 so/sx
    Blank - who fucking knows
    Sir Fratley - LIE-Te 8w7 sp/so
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    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I meant in Quadra progression/regression terms, but this is pretty cool too. What do you think about EIE or IEE Zidane? I can't help but thinking of his story about Ipsen (basically, "abstract story with a meaning") and thinking that that was a moment of pure and unbridled Ne.

    Also, why ILE for Quina? Why not SEI? On a related note, since he's a vaguely similar character, Gau of FFVI?

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    LALALALAL HAVENT GOTTEN THAT FAR LALALALALALALALALALAALA
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    LALALALAL HAVENT GOTTEN THAT FAR LALALALALALALALALALAALA
    Well if you've typed Kuja then you've already heard the Ipsen story yo. It's when Zidane and Dagger are under Madain Sari, I think.

    "Why did you come with me?"
    "Only because I wanted to go with you"

    I think his relationship with Vivi was the best part of the story. Between Vivi and Dagger, Zidane definitely does strike me as being "The Mentor" quite a bit. Not that this really disqualifies ESE, since I could see one of my ESE homies being a Zidane equivalent.

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    Hmmm. He seems too carefree for an EIE, not really contemplative, angsty, elitest, philosophically inclined, etc. He doesn't really have any hallmarks of an Aristocrat; he has the stereotypically Democratic appeal of being a charming guy with a kind of appealing equalitarian charisma, just sort of living his life until he gets swept up into things that didn't really have anything to do with him until he got in over his head, which is sort of a typically Alpha hero story.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Don't know anything about FFVI.

    Quina is way too blithe and self-insistent to be SEI. He is just kind of this heedless glutton, assuming people will feed him just for the sake of it and not even considering no as an answer. Massive fucking Si seeking gone completely awry with an 8 wing, lol.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    SLE Quina is GO.

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    Anyway, Quina and Gau are interesting because they're both characters who have zero idea of what's happening in the world around and just kind of hitch a ride with The Crew for whatever reason. Quina's case being that he... or she, or whatever wants to go out and eat as much of everything as possible; not so sure about Gau. Quina is more obviously self-serving, Gau is just a good-natured lad.

    Can Gau at least be the SEI? I want my type to appear in a videogame damnit

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    I suppose that's worth considering. But he carries more a sense of ravenous entitlement to be fed, rather than forceful gluttony to take what he wants. He sort of assumes he should be treated, rather than just taking what he wants. But I suppose it could be some strange abortion of an SLE being raised in an Si-heavy environment, lol.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Well, I mean, we are basically attempting to type pure Chaotic Neutral. Shall we just say it's like trying to contain vapour in unsealed glassware?

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    *shrug*

    I really just don't see ILE. I don't necessarily see anything against it, it's just not a type that really strikes me as making exceptional sense.

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    He is just hugely Si seeking to the max, clearly irrational and Fe valuing, and is completely oblivious to ethics.

    I agree he's not a super-typical ILE, but I think it makes more sense than any other type.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    but I think it makes more sense than any other type.
    It's situations like that where I say "Screw the system, this character is outside it."

    When doors A and B are a bad choice, YOU MAKE A NEW DOOR. Or you psychoanalyse the dungeon keeper architect and try and figure out what they were thinking of when they designed the building, and perhaps also what they were smoking.

    Anyway, enough Quina.

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    weirdly, I always thought SEE for Quina.

    Also, ESI for Dagger and LSI for Steiner, in fairly simple terms.

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    Naw, Dagger feeds off Zidane's Fe so damn much. I can see why you would think LSI for steiner, but he is pretty Delta to me.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I liked Beatrice a lot, so SLE makes sense for her. And I also liked Ruby too!

    And lol @ Vivi being a stereotypical IEI. Yeah... Steiner is annoying and fat, LSE is perfect for him.

    Final Fantasy games seem to enjoy ej male-ij female dualities. Cecil and Rosa are the same thing , either entj/isfj or esfj/intj. Cecil is probably an esfj more than an entj though...

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    Eiko is an obvious EIE, IMO; if not, then SEE.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    EIE. EIEs, we like each other but it's more surprising, with an IEI and SEE it's more earthy-feeling or something, and it's less of a 'shock' with them.

    The EIE you kinda expect them to be rude cause they have a clashing temperment, but they're actually quite sensitive and probably agree with you mostly. With an IEI and SEE, both are 'intriguing' and different enough for a lot of romantic and sexual chemistry, but the pain and disconnect is surprising and with an EIE, the likeability is surprising.

    I'm playing FF4 again now. I'm addicted.

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    Cecil is LSE. It's apparent in how he takes on things by himself. Also recall how mindlessly he followed the king's orders. Only an LSE could do that, I think, because it demonstrates beta Ni PoLR.

    The first half of the game is basically a chronicle of Cecil's learning to grapple with and master his PoLR function. Cecil demonstrates planning ability at multiple occasions, although only in an auxiliary capacity.

    Oh, and recall how oblivious he was to Rosa's desire to be with him? "Cecil, Rosa wants to be with you. Can't you see that?"

    I agree that Golbez is LIE. Porom is EII... Zemus was EIE. (genocide, anyone?)

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    I agree with Steiner being LSE 6w5. I think he's a good example.

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    I liked FF9 a lot but like 3/4 through it just gets crazy-like. IDK if I'll ever play it again to see if the transition works out for me.

    Garnett is hot though.

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    Whoops.

    Kuja is 3w4 sp/sx.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I don't really feel like replaying this (although I probably should), but from memory (and some investigating):

    Zidane ESE-Fe 7w6 so/sp
    Dagger LII-Ti 3w4 so/sx
    Vivi EII-Ne 4w5 sp/so
    Steiner LSE-Te 6w5 so/sp
    Quina ILE-Ne 3w2 sp/so
    Kuja EIE-Ni 2w3 so/sp
    Amarant ILI-Te 6w7 sp/sx
    Garland LII-Ne 8w7 sp/sx
    Beatrix SLE-Ti 7w8 sx/sp
    Freya EII-Fi 6w7 sx/so
    Eiko SLI-Si 5w4 sp/so
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