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    I know two people who I think are IEI whose type threw me off at first because they were so quiet and reserved that I didn't consider Fe ego at first. Both seem ego block-impaired due to environmental circumstances. idk, what do you think? Are IEI's more reserved in emotional expression than others extroverted (or strong Se) Fe ego types?
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    "Ego block impaired"... yeah I guess that's the alternative to observing that EM types exist.

    Most likely ILI or SLI EM. Although, EIE EM is another possibility.

    I wonder, does one of them sorta resemble Sephiroth?

    Whether a person is emotionally expressive or not has nothing to do with their type. Opening up about what they are feeling is a different matter entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg View Post
    "Ego block impaired"... yeah I guess that's the alternative to observing that EM types exist.

    Most likely ILI or SLI EM. Although, EIE EM is another possibility.

    I wonder, does one of them sorta resemble Sephiroth?

    Whether a person is emotionally expressive or not has nothing to do with their type. Opening up about what they are feeling is a different matter entirely.
    dude, I don't post enough to keep up with you. I mean, I never did post enough to get it (haha), but now I don't even recognize your vocabulary.
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    Joy,

    You must remember that your understanding of socionics is flawed.

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    Absolutely not. In my experience the presence of a dual (your presence if you believe yourself to be SLE) can really make IEIs open up. It is perhaps the case that IEIs may seem reserved from a distance but I would be inclined to disagree with you very strongly if you are finding IEIs being emotionally reserved in an intimate (1 on 1) setting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    Absolutely not. In my experience the presence of a dual (your presence if you believe yourself to be SLE) can really make IEIs open up. It is perhaps the case that IEIs may seem reserved from a distance but I would be inclined to disagree with you very strongly if you are finding IEIs being emotionally reserved in an intimate (1 on 1) setting.
    you think joys an sle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    Absolutely not. In my experience the presence of a dual (your presence if you believe yourself to be SLE) can really make IEIs open up. It is perhaps the case that IEIs may seem reserved from a distance but I would be inclined to disagree with you very strongly if you are finding IEIs being emotionally reserved in an intimate setting.
    Nooooooooo. Perhaps more emotionally reserved in some aspects around me than other IEI's (though perhaps for good reason? fuck), but the two I'm referring to do definitely get more emotionally expressive and less reserved when I interact with them. It's like this spark ignites. But before we had much interaction they had a sort of stoic appearance and my initial typings were Te creative. It wasn't until we interacted more that the Fe came out. Before they seemed really... bottled up. Now they seem to be coming alive more. Expressing themselves more. But they're still not nearly as sociable or emotionally expressive as some other people I've typed as IEI, and I don't think they ever will be. They're just more reserved in general than the others. I guess the range of Fe is just throwing me off a little. One of them (which I know professionally) has learned that if he expresses himself to me even a little I'll go to bat for him in whatever the situation is, which he seems to appreciate and makes use of.

    The other I think I still need to communicate that to properly. That one is used to Se + Fi, so when someone is forceful it's usually combined with them trying to make a specific thing happen and when it comes to subjective values, the Se wins out. He would get steamrolled if he got into a confrontation about it unless he totally flipped out, and if he does that it would just end in a silent stalemate. I want to communicate that I want to make it happen, but I need him to let me know what "it" is if it's not just a matter of what simply makes sense. I want his input on the more subjective stuff so I know what to make happen.

    With both I encourage them to let their silent Te guard down by helping them out with shit and just laughing off mistakes. Before it seemed like they were stubborn about not letting people know what they thought or wanted because people might get offended or disagree and they didn't want confrontation. They'd mostly just hope that the person would give up trying to engage them about it? Or get weird about weird things. But both would brag about how they could "handle themselves" (by blowing up) in serious confrontations.

    idk, whatever. I think I've got it worked out actually. Not sure why I'm even posting this other than that there's some shit I'm supposed to be working on that I'm procrastinating on, haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    Absolutely not. In my experience the presence of a dual (your presence if you believe yourself to be SLE) can really make IEIs open up. It is perhaps the case that IEIs may seem reserved from a distance but I would be inclined to disagree with you very strongly if you are finding IEIs being emotionally reserved in an intimate (1 on 1) setting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post
    Joy,

    You must remember that your understanding of socionics is flawed.
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    Joy,

    You must understand that your username and custom title are redundant, because they repeat themselves and are both the same.

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    Joy,

    You must understand that you have indirectly spawned a new T16T meme.

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    Joy,

    We don't expect you to understand. We know of your stripper past, and of your disability; we've seen the pictures. Although, who'd want to pay to watch you strip, well the mind boggles.

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    she must dig the harassment. like the negative energy of others becomes some pride pedestal for self-growth. anyway, not SLE. that is an insult, actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    she must dig the harassment. like the negative energy of others becomes some pride pedestal for self-growth. anyway, not SLE. that is an insult, actually.
    eh, there's a huge variety within types. I wouldn't expect to like every SLE I meet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Are IEI's more reserved in emotional expression than others extroverted (or strong Se) Fe ego types?

    We're saving our faces from wrinkles.

    Are you perhaps comparing 2 different sub types? I'm Ni and fall into the less emotionally expressive from a distance category. However my close friends call me a drama queen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    I know two people who I think are IEI whose type threw me off at first because they were so quiet and reserved that I didn't consider Fe ego at first. Both seem ego block-impaired due to environmental circumstances. idk, what do you think? Are IEI's more reserved in emotional expression than others extroverted (or strong Se) Fe ego types?
    People usually perceive me as chilly, aloof, or reserved if I don't know them (or like them) well. It's sort of a "withholding" effect. At times, I also tend to deliberately resist being too open with my emotional expression, like I only want to spend it with particular individuals and situations. I'm more lavish if I deem the person worthy. No one who has been around me frequently enough thinks I'm reserved. In fact, they'd openly snort at that notion.

    I guess I can also fake auto- pretty well. But it tends to feel plastic and disingenuous.
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    Socionics ftw.

    Whether I'm SLE or not, these two guys are IEI. And knowing that helps me understand exactly how they're not living up to their potential and the types of things I should appreciate and encourage in them and how to cover for their weaknesses to create a safe environment for them to be themselves. I've gotta say it's amazing seeing that spark in their eyes when I talk to them. I've realized that it's not that they're emotionally reserved, it's that they're emotionally repressed. Both have been through a lot of shit that has made them learn to be that way. In the case of the former it was a matter of bottling it up, and since we've been in frequent contact he's changed dramatically for the better. He smiles and laughs and lets people know when he's not happy, and he's been FAR more effective in his job because of it. In the case of the later I'm just beginning to see that spark really ignite and take off. It's a really awesome thing to experience. He's not bottling stuff up... he flipped the "emotion" switch off VERY early in childhood due to extremely difficult circumstances, and he's never been in safe enough circumstances to be able to switch it back on. It's a long story, but the bottom line is that Socionics is awesome, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Socionics ftw.

    Whether I'm SLE or not, these two guys are IEI. And knowing that helps me understand exactly how they're not living up to their potential and the types of things I should appreciate and encourage in them and how to cover for their weaknesses to create a safe environment for them to be themselves. I've gotta say it's amazing seeing that spark in their eyes when I talk to them. I've realized that it's not that they're emotionally reserved, it's that they're emotionally repressed. Both have been through a lot of shit that has made them learn to be that way. In the case of the former it was a matter of bottling it up, and since we've been in frequent contact he's changed dramatically for the better. He smiles and laughs and lets people know when he's not happy, and he's been FAR more effective in his job because of it. In the case of the later I'm just beginning to see that spark really ignite and take off. It's a really awesome thing to experience. He's not bottling stuff up... he flipped the "emotion" switch off VERY early in childhood due to extremely difficult circumstances, and he's never been in safe enough circumstances to be able to switch it back on. It's a long story, but the bottom line is that Socionics is awesome, lol.
    you know .. if i was an iei .. i wouldn't want you going around trying to see my "potential" ..

    and iei's have a spark in their eye for everyone joy ..

    you're not special don't kid yourself.

    it helps them get things out of other people .. free food .. getting "off" things .. etc etc ..

    iei's use people more than sle's... they're just more discrete.

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    I've observed this, but these two don't. And it's not about me. It's about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post
    you know .. if i was an iei .. i wouldn't want you going around trying to see my "potential" ..

    and iei's have a spark in their eye for everyone joy ..

    you're not special don't kid yourself.

    it helps them get things out of other people .. free food .. getting "off" things .. etc etc ..

    iei's use people more than sle's... they're just more discrete.
    Because we play off peoples own desires. They want something, and we go along with it if it suites us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat360 View Post
    Because we play off peoples own desires. They want something, and we go along with it if it suites us.
    Very good way to put it. It's a form of molding, in a way, but it's very much how IEI's make their way in the world from my observations. Marvelous creatures, those IEI's.

    Some of them just need someone to let them know that it's okay for them to want stuff. And that they can and will make it happen if they decide to. (Sure they need encouragement and support with the practical end of those things, but whateva. People are resources; make it work. They can do it.)
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    Sounds like you're trying to fix them. Maybe they're not broken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    eh, there's a huge variety within types. I wouldn't expect to like every SLE I meet.
    I don't really have a problem with her, just shameless pretense.
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    yeah I actually pretend I hate joy alot more than I do. I still hate her though, but it's a really shallow form of hatred.

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    Admit it, you guys only "hate" Joy because your beloved leader Ashton does, and his Beta kiwi capo as well.

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    those betas need a new Maritsa,that's all

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    is the old one gonnnneee??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalist Pig View Post
    Admit it, you guys only "hate" Joy because your beloved leader Ashton does, and his Beta kiwi capo as well.
    Ashton hates Joy? Didn't know that.

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    you can't hate joy; she's too harmless.
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    Wouldn't they be able to see the results though?
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    Call in for like two or three days in a row and they'll realize how much you do in your absence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by esper View Post
    I called in for about a week and they went through all the work I'd done (without me) and wrote me up for not finishing it. :frown:

    **Edit: I think it's okay now cause I had a talk with them about it. I can't be sure tho...>.< ugh
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    good, sounds stressful and not rewarding. there are better things out there for you, places you'll be appreciated.
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