I sound like an idiot for asking this. A good work ethic, ambition, courtesy are some traits that come to my mind. What are some traits that gammas find attractive and traits that gammas find unattractive?
I sound like an idiot for asking this. A good work ethic, ambition, courtesy are some traits that come to my mind. What are some traits that gammas find attractive and traits that gammas find unattractive?
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
--Theodore Roosevelt
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
-- Mark Twain
"Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in."
-- Confucius
What do you mean by good work ethic?
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naked women and a pool party usually does it for me.
For me, (Romantically): be a mature dual of mine. LOL
for me, (platonically): be aware, be considerate, be respectful, stand up to oppression, or be intellectually stimulating, etc.
understand, especially because you value Fe, that I feel attacked by it sometimes or like it's a foreign, awkward ritual. . .
Don't require me to show affection the way you're used to it. My complimenting someone or hanging out or protecting someone can be a sign of affection....
Give me information.
Allow me (the gamma) to help you with something.
Give me ideas to think about, NOT in a demeaning or vain way. I will be less interested in discussing it and focus on analyzing your vanity if you do it with a puffed-up manner.
DO NOT CALL ME ILLOGICAL simply because we use differing Ts ( and ). Seriously!
also, my ex (ILE) would not have his needs met when my was used. My needs weren't met when his was used. It's pretty frustrating. Same with my best friend who's an ILE. He and I find great comfort in the NT retreat we share from the world, though.
I really like a great many things about ILEs.
We have explosive fights, though. I prefer analyzing why we're fighting (not in front of non-NTs, tho).
Some very great bonding with my ILE buddy.
It helped me a lot to read that ILEs wonder, "What does this person want from me?" when an Fi expression is made. I had to explain it to an EII that the ILE feels manipulated by stuff like this. I like that I get to say it to him, but I don't pause for acknowledgment, like I would with other types. I hope that helps. It's seemed to work better.
I don't know how best to describe it, but there's a thing that riles me in ILE-ILI interaction:
I don't know if it's Ti or Si, but when ILEs say something IS a certain way and use this subjective opinion in an argument (especially about people), it drives me nuts sometimes. i don't know how best to say it...
I am in favor of;
-Argument. Any topic. Anything goes.
-Driven people who know what they are living for. This doesn't mean Se; it just means you've got a reason to live for that I haven't already ruled out as outright stupidity.
-Confidence and expertise in what you are talking about
-Focus in conversation matter; interactions can't be bouncing off the walls, a topic deserves more than a few minutes' consideration.
I am against;
-People who don't live by their own principles; I loathe hypocrisy/inconsistency
-Lack of direction or goals in life.
Sounds Ni valuing I guess. I tried not to be bias based on functions but there you go Why don't you tell us what type you're trying to win over, as I think you'll just get ILI responses
FWIW,
I found myself reading then skipping off (using the mouse gesture) back to the main page to look for more interesting things to read.
Then I figured I'd give my take.
A lot of what you're saying that you think is Ni is actually Te. Hence the kind of repel in me.
I think that
"-Focus in conversation matter; interactions can't be bouncing off the walls, a topic deserves more than a few minutes' consideration."
Is what puts ILI's off me the fastest...
In my case, you should have some goals and aspirations of some kind. I have a hard time relating to people who don't have some idea of where they want to go in life. I really enjoy talking about that kind of stuff.
I love arguments, controversial discussions, and philosophical discussions.
Talk to me about personal things. Obviously if you walk up to me and start telling me about your sex life it's gong to be a little weird, but if I know you're name and at least a little about you, I can't imagine myself shying away from anything personal you want to talk about.
Ask me for advice. (If you do that in combination with one of the above, you've won me over.)
Be mature, some common decency never hurt.
No really I don't care about that in a friend, it's more important that you're polite but also fun / have some slapstick - sexual humor. If you mean more like, how can you make me admire you, then probably having multiple intellectual interests will do, as well as being flexible in your thinking and not being excessively serious. Loving adventures is also a plus, it's hard for me to be friends with excessively stay-at-home kind of people.
Yeah, definitely. I mean, if you want me to join in a business venture or some shit like that, then sure it's better if you have some sort of plan...but if you just want to be friends, I couldn't care less. Some heroin addicts have cooler stories than many boring people with goals that I constantly meet @ university.Some people have all these long term goals and are really driven and they're really lame, and some people are cool but don't have good long term goals or lack drive .. to get them done.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Trust
The kind we may neglect our guard enough to let them speak for us, keep our treasures and significant ones safe, and believing that, even if things went wrong, that failure had a reason you'll find acceptable later.
I found these qualities or the gist they might develop among three ESI and two EII. Of course, this takes years.
Very desirable. Allows for peaceful dissent.
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