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    Lightbulb A Ball through the Functions

    I was going to put this on the my personal blog within the forum, but for some reason it didn't allow me to post lots of images unlike here where I can. Anyway, I had this idea in mind to think of an object that would go through all of the functions to differentiate them while remaining externally constant. A ball came to mind:

    Extraverted Intuition:



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    Introverted Intuition:



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    Extraverted Logic:



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    Introverted Logic:



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    Extraverted Ethics:



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    Introverted Ethics:



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    Extraverted Sensing:



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    Introverted Sensing:



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    Let me know what you think.
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    I always associated lightbulb as Ne, like it's used in cartoons. I see what you're doing here with stars as multiple faraway possiblities, but I don't think it works at all for Ne/Ni. Light at the end of a tunnel would be more like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiss View Post
    I always associated lightbulb as Ne, like it's used in cartoons. I see what you're doing here with stars as multiple faraway possiblities, but I don't think it works at all for Ne/Ni. Light at the end of a tunnel would be more like it.
    True, though I don't think it would fit with the "round" theme. Maybe a clock instead for Ni?
    Though the crystal ball still might work a bit better to signify the prospective aspect of Ni

    Anywho, I thought this was pretty cool Timeless

    btw I think this one makes a bit more sense for Fi with the relational aspect than the religious one you got up there
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    Which function is that -



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    Quote Originally Posted by Marie84 View Post
    True, though I don't think it would fit with the "round" theme. Maybe a clock instead for Ni?
    Though the crystal ball still might work a bit better to signify the prospective aspect of Ni.
    Round enough, especially with the stars one, methinks:



    I'd go with the clock as long as it was one like in Theta's avatar, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    Hmm... wouldn't the stars be the multiple possibilities of Ni? And not just based on the fact that it includes the attribute of "multiple" but because they're the only way how someone could put hope for the validity of Ni information in the real world. Eg, if only one star existed, one could not invented star wars, where there are a lot of civilizations & stuff, which IMO is Ni information.

    One can invent the other stars, but that's again, Ni.
    Stars for Ne and lightbulb for Ni simply make people think of interpretations not fitting these elements, like you say here. The difference between the meaning of stars here possibly intended by Timeless and seen by you pretty much sums up the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post

    Introverted Ethics:

    wtf, lol
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    LMFAO @ your avatar!
    Cute, isn't it?
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    Which function is that -



    ?
    It makes me think of sensible agreements made by grown men to better the interest of both parties. So Te and Fi.

    And by grown men I mean none of the parties are going to start bitching meaninglessly like little girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marie84 View Post
    btw I think this one makes a bit more sense for Fi with the relational aspect than the religious one you got up there
    When I think of Fi, I think of:


    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Some functions don't have balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuturututu View Post
    Some functions don't have balls.
    LOL! Which functions? I think we can exclude and :wink:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiss View Post
    I always associated lightbulb as Ne, like it's used in cartoons. I see what you're doing here with stars as multiple faraway possiblities, but I don't think it works at all for Ne/Ni. Light at the end of a tunnel would be more like it.
    Hmm, I'm gonna look more into it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Marie84 View Post
    True, though I don't think it would fit with the "round" theme. Maybe a clock instead for Ni?
    Though the crystal ball still might work a bit better to signify the prospective aspect of Ni

    Anywho, I thought this was pretty cool Timeless

    btw I think this one makes a bit more sense for Fi with the relational aspect than the religious one you got up there
    Yeah, now that I think about it, the clock makes more sense. I'll change it when I come back.

    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    Which function is that -



    ?
    I'd say

    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post
    wtf, lol
    I was basically aiming for what is "morally" right/wrong as opposed to what is "logically" right/wrong when it came to

    Any other way to put Fi is welcome.

    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post
    When I think of Fi, I think of:


    Now, how to put that into a ball shape?

    One testicle can't work.

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    This is how I've imagined Ne. It's fairly circular.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    I was basically aiming for what is "morally" right/wrong as opposed to what is "logically" right/wrong when it came to
    Religion = morality? Give me a break.

    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    Now, how to put that into a ball shape?

    One testicle can't work.
    You could use something like Marie suggested. Or you can go extreme and use:

    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    I was basically aiming for what is "morally" right/wrong as opposed to what is "logically" right/wrong when it came to
    The problem with using religion as an explanation for elements is that it can easily be slanted depending on ones own IE values. For instance, where you're seeing Fi=religion because it's based on ethical codes I can easily see it as Ti for being based on a dogma. I think this is a major reason why they're multiple interpretations and conflicts in religious sects
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plynex View Post
    LOL! Which functions? I think we can exclude and :wink:
    lol
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Ni and Ne should be switched. For some reason I've always associated Ni with stars and nebula floating in space & time. A also agree with Aiss about the Ne light bulb thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    Lol, yeah at first I mistook the picture of the stars as and I thought, "oh that's actually kind of appropriate."
    Yeah, we're seeing different things...

    I was thinking of the picture as a globular cluster with multiple light sources (potential like a single light bulb) across an endless point in space.

    Quote Originally Posted by April View Post
    This is how I've imagined Ne. It's fairly circular.

    What would the spider be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post
    Religion = morality? Give me a break.




    You could use something like Marie suggested. Or you can go extreme and use:

    I think that can be or -PoLR.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marie84 View Post
    The problem with using religion as an explanation for elements is that it can easily be slanted depending on ones own IE values. For instance, where you're seeing Fi=religion because it's based on ethical codes I can easily see it as Ti for being based on a dogma. I think this is a major reason why they're multiple interpretations and conflicts in religious sects
    Of course, and that goes for practically all of the images. I'm just looking for something (at least) closely universal here.

    How about the circle of life for Fi?


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    This thread is very worth taking down in the process of killing myself. Maybe a suicide bombing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    I think that can be or -PoLR.
    No way. Punisher's vengeance and quest for justice is to the max. Perhaps more on the Gamma side, but still.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Timeless, what you did is pure Ne in itself lol.
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