Difference between SLEs/ESTps of Enneagram type 7 and 8

[thePirate]

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[DirectorAbbie]

E8s are more commanding, E7s are more friendly. I have an SLE E8 grandpa and an SLE E7 brother. The latter gets on my nerves more often, but that's 'cause I live with him.

[silverchris9]

E7s are the more fun-loving, let's go out and do something crazy SLEs. E8s are the other kind.

[Aleksei]

E7 SLE: Jack Sparrow
E8 SLE: Barbossa

[Creepy-male]

Short Answer to the 5 dollar question.

7's -- Enjoyment Seeking
8's -- Power Seeking

The gradient between 7 and 8 is about the combination of enjoyment and power... like feel excited and on top of the world... and seeking those experiences....

where as the 6/7 gradient is more mentally contained... like outrun the anxiety and just enjoy your time in good company... but still a little safer than the 7/8 gradient

the 8/9 gradient is more bear-like.... calm earthy... think maximus the farmer from gladiator... statusque and commanding but earthy and calm and in touch with the earth.

This is also the border between the Thinking and Instinctual Triad. The intersection of Thought and Instinct apparently... I've yet to determine if this means anything.

[redbaron]

SLE E7s go with the flow, are funloving and avoid conflicts/people who complain/people who are negative. Relaxed. Don't have the direction and drive of the E8s. Often lazy. Smooth, almost in a SEE-like way. Skilled at getting underneath the radar. Easy to like. Other-directed. Catlike.

SLE E8s are almost EJ-like in that they move most of the time and for a purpose. Very stubborn, hard to manipulate and often aggressive-defensive. By that I mean they defend aggressively before they are even attacked. Just in case. If unhealthy, shoot them. If healthy, great friends. Emotional. They have only one emotion, though. Anger. Look as if something is wrong with them if they smile. Stomach-ache? Self-contained. Heavy.

yeah. SLE-7s are often Ti-subs and SLE-8s often Se-subs.

[redbaron]

Maybe? No idea.

Ime it's the opposite way around, but I have only identified 2 SLE E7s and 4 SLE E8s. The SLE E7s are Se-subs. The E8s are 3*Ti and 1*Se.

interesting.

[Crispy]

Maybe? No idea.

Ime it's the opposite way around, but I have only identified 2 SLE E7s and 4 SLE E8s. The SLE E7s are Se-subs. The E8s are 3*Ti and 1*Se.

This makes a bit more sense as the Ti-subtype should have a slightly weaker PolR.

[FDG]

SLE 7s are the guys you're friends with, good at cheating their way out of every system they get in, get rich and waste their money on hookers. SLE 8s are your boss, shout at your when they are angry and beat their wife, but love their children.

[Ave]

SLE 7s are more lighthearted the 8s are more serious; they might have light touch but at the core be more serious people than Howard Stern.

[Ezra]

SLE E7s go with the flow, are funloving and avoid conflicts/people who complain/people who are negative. Relaxed. Don't have the direction and drive of the E8s. Often lazy. Smooth, almost in a SEE-like way. Skilled at getting underneath the radar. Easy to like. Other-directed. Catlike.

SLE E8s are almost EJ-like in that they move most of the time and for a purpose. Very stubborn, hard to manipulate and often aggressive-defensive. By that I mean they defend aggressively before they are even attacked. Just in case. If unhealthy, shoot them. If healthy, great friends. Emotional. They have only one emotion, though. Anger. Look as if something is wrong with them if they smile. Stomach-ache? Self-contained. Heavy.

Basically accurate, although I'm both easy to like and often lazy.

yeah. SLE-7s are often Ti-subs and SLE-8s often Se-subs.

I would agree with ananke on this - more SLE-Se Sevens, more SLE-Ti Eights.

[Gilly]

SLE 8s: Herman Goerring, Donald Trump

SLE 7s: Anthony Keidis, Jim Carrey

[JWC3]

SLE E7s go with the flow, are funloving and avoid conflicts/people who complain/people who are negative. Relaxed. Don't have the direction and drive of the E8s. Often lazy. Smooth, almost in a SEE-like way. Skilled at getting underneath the radar. Easy to like. Other-directed. Catlike.

SLE E8s are almost EJ-like in that they move most of the time and for a purpose. Very stubborn, hard to manipulate and often aggressive-defensive. By that I mean they defend aggressively before they are even attacked. Just in case. If unhealthy, shoot them. If healthy, great friends. Emotional. They have only one emotion, though. Anger. Look as if something is wrong with them if they smile. Stomach-ache? Self-contained. Heavy.

Can you feel the correctness? Cause I can.

[redbaron]

Can you feel the correctness? Cause I can.

are you E-7 or E-8?

[redbaron]

He's attention (admiration)-seeking, often showing off his ability to act smarter and/or more responsibly than others, and has a boyish charm. I'd say E3?

ahhahahahaa yes...

[JWC3]

He's attention (admiration)-seeking, often showing off his ability to act smarter and/or more responsibly than others, and has a boyish charm. I'd say E3?

lol What? When do I claim to be smarter than others?