This description is pretty accurate in describing me, BTW ...
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ENTp
lmaoOriginally Posted by Transigent
Hmmmm ... so, what are you trying to say?Originally Posted by Transigent
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ENTp
This is an odd situation - surely ESFj would be a less desirable type to be than ESTj, at least if one subscribed to the stereotypes of S, F, and J. But maybe this is all Beta's fault?Originally Posted by Transigent
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ENTp
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
Yes, of course. It just occurred to me that something didn't make sense. But I suppose the prevalence of INTjs would explain the phenomenon.Originally Posted by implied
Hell no. The only type I would hate to be more than ESTj is ISTj.
You are INFj.
ENTj - intuitive subtype - 8w9, sp/sx
Reuben, if you really want to find the truth about your type, I think you should give us more "focused" information about yourself. You seem to start all over again from scratch without finding anything certain to build from. I can help you if you want, but then you have to be more cooperative.
You say that the description from the handwriting analysis is pretty accurate. That may be the case, but it doesn't tell us very much, since it is too vague and unspecific. It could fit many people. If I had to pick one type that comes closest to the description I would chose ENFp.
I have told you more than once that you give a strong impression of being a feeling type. Do you still doubt that? I think you shouldn't. Instead you should take that premise a starting point for further investigations.
You seem convinced that you are an intuitive type of some sort. I can't tell you for sure if you are or not, but let's assume that you really are an N type. In that case we have limited the possible types to four: ENFj, ENFp, INFj and INFp.
If you are right about the N and I am right about the F (which I probably am), why not start our investigation from those premises?
DUDE... stop playing games and just tell us what goes inside your head.
That profile fits like, 90 percent of the population reuben.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
I see Fi.
wtf? INTp. and as rocky would say, duh.
LII
that is what i was getting at. if there is an inescapable appropriation that is required in the act of understanding, this brings into question the validity of socionics in describing what is real, and hence stubborn contradictions that continue to plague me.
Heh.
Anyway McNew, I just realized you look a lot like my INTP cousin... a LOT like him.
pair mcnew with an esfp and we would "feel as though we are looking at a separated androgynous pair".
LII
that is what i was getting at. if there is an inescapable appropriation that is required in the act of understanding, this brings into question the validity of socionics in describing what is real, and hence stubborn contradictions that continue to plague me.
I dunno. I think an ESFp would be too independent for him. He wants a woman who literally won't even LOOK at another man, one who won't even leave the house would prolly be his ideal woman.
she just has to be very young. they could mature together.
LII
that is what i was getting at. if there is an inescapable appropriation that is required in the act of understanding, this brings into question the validity of socionics in describing what is real, and hence stubborn contradictions that continue to plague me.
I sent you a pm ...Originally Posted by Darkside
Why do I waste my time with these idiotic posts ... ? If it isn't the objective ENTjs telling me a description means crap because it isn't valid enough, it is the concrete ISTps trying to shove me into a God damned stereotypical box. And then there are the trollers ... Good way to piss me off ...
Thanks anyhow ...
wtf's your problem? all I asked was,
"DUDE... stop playing games and just tell us what goes inside your head."
... what are you afraid of? It's certainly something, because you're not making much sense. You ask people to type you through a vague handwriting analysis description which could be of anyone, then when some of us ask for you to reveal your true self, you run away. Not to mention that you call ISTPs "stereotypical" while at the same time you are stereotyping ENTJs and ISTPs.
If you can't be honest with yourself and with us, then you will never be able to accept your type. And stop worring about letting the four-letter acronym define you, as you will soon realize it doesn't really matter what it is (more how you use it).
I think I need to meet people in real life, as opposed to a forum.
ENFp
This guy, I believe, is an ENFp: http://www.riksdagen.se/upload/bilde...899103_max.jpg
http://susning.nu/Birger_Schlaug
He looks like one of my cousins, who acts very much like me ...Originally Posted by Phaedrus
OMG!!! It's an older and much happier mcnew!
that guy just smile because he just ________ !!!
is like a wet kiss on the cheek and a warm hug by a cute smiling girl.
is the confetti shots on your birthday party with all your friends.
is a way to completely rip apart the face of god and stare directly at the naked universe.
is like over here and then over there and they are all connected and I am on amphetamine.
The only thing these guys could agree on was that I am intuitive ...
http://www.socionika.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=981
Hmmm, I just looked at the link again ... and they seem to be radiating towards ENTp again.
They seemed to think I'm INTx or ENTj.
@ rmcnew
I would currently type you as an ENFP, but these distance typings tends to become never ending quests.
BTW Could you see yourself together with an ISTP? Or is there any instinctive gut reaction?
"Arnie is strong, rightfully angry and wants to kill somebody."
martin_g_karlsson
ahahahaah McNew and I are duals, now we can be butt-buddies, lol.Originally Posted by CuriousSoul
In other words, NO.
I swear, this guy is an Introvert with severe identity problems. It's like he has been told all his life that being an "Introvert" is such a bad thing that he has let that belief affect his judgment to the point of not being able to accept the "Introvert" label. Maybe this is why he runs away whenever anyone asks him something serious about him or his type.
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ENTp
Is that a general pattern? And by "conflicting family relations" do you mean conflicts and problems in general, or do you refer to relations between types that have a relation of Conflict? In the latter case, could the fact that my mother is an ESFj be one of the reasons it took me so long to determine that I am an INTp?Aw, be easy on Ruby. He could be yet another example of someone who can't find thier type because of conflicting family relations.
Actually, nothing could be farther from the truth ... before I found out about socionics, I typed myself as an INTJ in MBTI and thought I was an introvert. Then, I realized descrepencies with MBTI and its definitions of introversion and extroversion, and decided that I could really be either an introvert and extrovert. ENTp and ENFj sounded most like me, so I went with that.Originally Posted by Rocky
And as far as this preception that I run away, it is because I think people are assholes. And besides the fact that I disagree with the entire premise of the definitions people use for introversion and extroversion, I get sick of dealing with them after a while, especially when they insist where it is not wanted.
EIE - why not?