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    Default German presidantal election

    After the first ballot today, the favorite candidate of the governing parties, Christian Wulff, was not able to reach the absolute majority. His rival, Joachim Gauck is more popular amoung the people. This won't help him much during the vote because the president will not be directly chosen by the german people. Now everyone is waiting for the second ballot.

    Meanwhile, how would you V.I. the candidates?

    Christian Wulff:




    Joachim Gauck:


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    Your guess sounds not bad, Pinocchio.
    Well, the Liberals in Germany (FDP) are mainly economical liberal and less social liberal. That's why the traditionally coalite with the conservatives (CDU/CSU). I know it sounds odd that the Liberals team up with the conservatives, but this situation persists for years. The Greens and the Social Democrats (SPD) are typically working together. They also brought up Joachim Gauck as a candidate. And the Left party politicians (successor of the communist/socialist party of East Germany) are doing what they want, as usual.They prefer to nominate an own candidate without any realistic chance instead of supporting Gauck to put the government under pressure.

    I agree that Gauck is Fi valuing. He is the one who founded an agency which revealed the STASI (secret police of East Germany) documents about persons who were suspicious to the GDR regime. This was a task where he showed very much commitment. (And this is why he's not very popular among Leftists. Of course, only inofficial.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    Btw, you're with the left (I mean SDs and Greens), right? (you should )
    Well, I do favor Gauck as president and politically I'm closest to the Social Democrats, (you mean them when you say SDs, right?) even I don't agree their opinion all the time.

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    Yeah, but that sounds normal - Left vs Right. On the other hand, if the Liberals would collaborate with the Greens, they could make a stronger pro-decentralization coalition, but as usual, they are fooled by the big guys .
    Theoretically, yes. But I don't think this would ever happen. They are too different to work together. There are also quarrels between Social Democrats and the Left Party if there is the debate of working together.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    Anyway, are you aware of my association between IEs and political axes? Of course, not that a certain type would adhere necessarily to one of them, but as attitude and concept about the realities and the problems: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...tml#post614016
    I didn't read your thread about that issue but I already thought about that. I did that test before and I found it very interesting. I you want you can take a look on my result:
    (I did it several times, it's a little wavering of course, but it's always the same quadrant)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plynex View Post
    I didn't read your thread about that issue but I already thought about that. I did that test before and I found it very interesting. I you want you can take a look on my result:
    (I did it several times, it's a little wavering of course, but it's always the same quadrant)

    I'm in the same quadrant - though closer to the center on left/right axis - and can't imagine Beta/Gamma values as "authoritarian", even less so when compared to "libertarian" Delta. I'd say any assignment on this axis is going to have problems, including by valuing, rationality/irrationality, or other dichotomies I've tried.

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