I'll join this quadra

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

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[Suz]

No, seriously, Cyclops' is retarded, disagreements aside. What's successful about him?
I know you feel pity for him - how else, he's pitiful - but let's be honest.

aww I dont pity Cyclops!! I like him, we get along really well. And I enjoy talking to him very much!

But that's no surprise because we're duals. (no i am not getting into an argument over cyclops' type with you). Unless I'm SLI, in which case he might be IEE. don't forget, duals are the same just inside out. That might be why he comes across IEE to you online.

[Creepy-Cyclops]

It was not me, that was the Diamond Logic penetrating straight to the core by itself. "Then I said woot? Oh yeah, thanks pal!"

Are you going to provide reasons for your typing or not?

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[Creepy-Cyclops]

These 'reasons' are facile and circumstancial. You know this because you are using types of people which may not be right, you are also guessing what WA thinks - I already told you your fantasies about what happens interferes with reality.


The reasons are similar to some of the ones I provided you for you being ILI, which you dismissed, but not quite as facile as what you just said as mine are based on ACTUAL EVENTS.

[Suz]

You empathize with him more likely because he's your identical, nothing more sensible. Usually Duals don't pay much attention to each other unless in a relationship, I though you know that. You don't really seem to give a shit about the truly SLI users, like Parker, DeAnte or Absurd - at least it was never this special "dual relationship" you talk about, correct me if I'm wrong. Either way you're not talking Socionics, but your fantasy.

Don't mix your feelings with typing . You're just biased, first you said that he's "successful" now that he's your dual, what next?

IMO people made their minds on him, a lawyer will not change that.

What do you mean?? I like parkster!! And absurd!!! (is he SLI now?) And I would have totally liked DeAnte too if he was still around (he was before my time). I have seen youtube vids of him and his past posts, and he seemed like a very cool guy. If you noticed, in my superlatives list, DeAnte was one of the people i listed as wishing he was still around!

I never said i have a "special" dual relationship with cyclops. I experienced duality in real life yes, not with cyclops, but with another SLI (and yes it was special in its own unique way) and true, I didn't really notice him before we interacted closely and he brought my attention to himself. Online is a totally different story. And my feelings towards cyclops are quite similar to parkster and absurd. I like them all and enjoy talking with them all and i think all 3 of them are good people. The difference is that the latter two are not fighting with you so I have no reason to correct your misconceptions about them.

p.s. and cyclops is successful. Apparently you dont really know anything about him, it seems. (even though he did publically mention it at one point)

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[Aiss]

I apologies for associating him with your type. Perhaps you could look for an improvement and look to do a swap with beta for ****** instead of him.

Nah, they're far too much in love with the guy to ever give him up. I wonder if there are any IEIs here they'd like to rid themselves of, though?

I don't type Jarno otherwise than himself, I think you confuse quarrelling with people with correct typing. With Jarno I disagree on approach and understanding.

Must have been someone else then, sorry. That "if I recall correctly" was there for a reason.

To be sincere, I don't think it's all about type/subtype in my case. I know some calm Ti-ILEs, a bit deluded, I mean not so clenchy about telling the truth to people. Maybe in my case, it has to do with two things:
- I deal with people and their type/personality/nature - but most ILEs aren't in this situation
- I got in touch, in my 20s, with a buddhist-derived teaching which made me realize for the first time how many prejudices we have and how subjectively and distorted we see reality.

Anyway, reading some ILE descriptions, it appears that any ILE has this grim truth defensive mode latent in them. Maybe it's all a matter of circumstances?

From both what you say of ILEs and how you come off here, I'd say it is at least subtype related. Especially when you said something like ILEs don't act or dress silly/goofy because they take themselves seriously, and in that case IEE was more likely, in some VI thread. Oh, I know very well they do take themselves seriously, both subtypes, but Ne flavour tends to make it very hard for people to take them seriously.

It feels good here in Gamma, I'm staying with you

We'll rid you of that Fe in no time if you do.

It's great to see you here, Parasite. I appreciate yours appreciating this thread. Now why don't you go and get your guy a life or something?

[Creepy-Cyclops]

Pinocchio, you used to rate me as one of the people who really got this theory, and that I know what I'm talking about. You fell in love with some of the reasoning behind my typing of some people.

It started to change when I wouldn't accept your new typing for me.

You've completely changed your views on my intelligence in the last few months, you think I fell on my head? Why are you ad-homining me and complete wrap around of your perception of me? Why also do you keep comment on how stupid you think I am, how I don't get anything...what about me is now the issues that you see.. are you looking to give any justification for my actual type or just using the forum to attack someone or what?

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[krieger]

I usually respect this, people know, all I remember is Archon and labcoat who I asked for permission to post what they told me but they refused and I respected that, although I wanted strongly to point something out.

I have no idea what you could be referring to. There has never been an exchange between us of the nature you hint at. If you're talking about the Phaedrus typing, I only corrected you by saying I found your suggestion "interesting" rather than really worth considering. "Interesting" is exactly the word I used in the PM itself.

- I got in touch, in my 20s, with a buddhist-derived teaching which made me realize for the first time how many prejudices we have and how subjectively and distorted we see reality.

The royal "we" doesn't suit you, Pinocchio; or maybe you were referring to the crowd of phantoms you take with you whereever you go. I that case I won't object to the statement and urge you to consider how much damage you do to the world by opening your mouth while in the pertaining state of mind.

[Jarno]

CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG

I will ask HugoLeasing how that can be accomplished.

[Beautiful sky]

You guys are silly, Pinocchio has a girlfriend.

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[krieger]

You always say that I'm insane and people don't believe me, what harm do I do then? I think that you're simply narrow-minded and can't see past the rigid rules of your moral canon - you're an LSI as well.

You're right that you're insane and that people don't believe you. What disturbs me, however, is the fact that people still spend time considering your misconceived suggestions to the point they start threads about them and post 4 pages worth of text on them like in this thread. Until your psychopathy is publicly established as an absolute and your words are met only with abrupt rejection, the work of informing the people about the absent worth of your neurotic ramblings will never be done.

[Trevor]

I don't think Pinnochio is a psychopat.

[krieger]

I don't think Pinnochio is a psychopat.

I'm sure the audience will take the opinion of the great Tuturututu in consideration.

[Creepy-Cyclops]

Let me refresh your memory: No, I first accepted your SLI typing, then I typed you as IEE (not sure if it was no ILE inbetween). But this happened a long time ago, we had no issues meantime, we talked on PM different stuff, not your type, although you never accepted this typing.

All began when you went mad, you began spreading random typings, keeping grudges to people who disagreed and at one point I got sucked into this rampage of yours - although this same experience tells me that you will continue the same way. Don't try to discharge your guilt feelings on me, I'm guilty of nothing, otherwise I'd have accepted the things how they are. But I simply don't accept what's not true. You feel guilty - I understand it but can't do anything - and try to throw it on me, I simply an not guilty of anything. That's typical for an IEE, if you ask me.

If you want to get rid of the negative emotions, try something else man, this won't work, I have the experience with my father, ex and other IEEs. It won't work because it doesn't make sense for me to accept a blame for something I've not done. And I even know since when you feel guilty - since I told you that I considered friend but you blew it up, previously in a thread.

It's a pity you had a difficult childhood and relationship problems, what do you expect me to do?

Can you go back and answer my questions.

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[Creepy-]

It's great to see you here, Parasite. I appreciate yours appreciating this thread. Now why don't you go and get your guy a life or something?

hey, good to see you too. i want to make clear that i'm just a spectator. i don't want to get involved between Pinocchio and Cyclops war of who has the bigger balls. i would appreciate if you don't drag me into this. thanx

[crazedrat]

oooo, I totally disagree. Cyclops is one of the more highly educated people in this forum, and is successful in a very intellectual field.

Disagreement =/= lack of intelligence.

No, he absolutely is. He makes big assumptions with little basis and usually doesn't notice conflicts in his thinking. Usually he doesn't seem to care enough to correct himself, either.

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[Suz]

No, he absolutely is. He makes big assumptions with little basis and usually doesn't notice conflicts in his thinking. Usually he doesn't seem to care enough to correct himself, either.

Well that's just unvalued Ti, described by a Ti valuer.

[crazedrat]

Not the part about making big assumptions.

There are gammas and deltas who avoid those gaping holes in what they're saying. Not Cyclops though

[Marie84]

No, he absolutely is. He makes big assumptions with little basis and usually doesn't notice conflicts in his thinking. Usually he doesn't seem to care enough to correct himself, either.

Well that's just unvalued Ti, described by a Ti valuer.

That actually sounds more like valued Fe/Ti

Te: takes any input "as it is given" as long as it is from a reliable source (or person)
Fi: tells you which sources are reliable (or which people to trust)

vs

Fe: takes the input not "as it is given" but "reading between the lines"
Ti: organizes such input logically, rejecting the bits that do not fit logically.

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...tml#post318989

[Creepy-Cyclops]

Not the part about making big assumptions.

There are gammas and deltas who avoid those gaping holes in what they're saying. Not Cyclops though

Here crazed, let me give you a damp towel for your head , help you cool it down so you can understand

[krieger]

Jeez, you are really a benchmark LSI/ISTj, you never disappoint me.

As we were, did you watch the constable Jaffers video in the other thread? What do you think, is he an LSI?

ISTj, ISFj, take your pick. If it wasn't immediately clear I have nothing whatsoever in common with the person. If you're going to compare me to any ISTj at all, take James Frain. He's one of the few ISTjs I come close to identifying with and of whom I would take the suggestion of being an identical to as a compliment.

Maybe that just means Frain is INTj, though. I don't consider that impossible.

[Trevor]

hehe, thanks for posting that, labcoat

[717495]

This thread is shit. I can't even read most peoples posts in here.

Lol. Yeah, it's one of those questionable threads.