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He was soooo jerk-ish and douche-y in the past haha. But I mean now that I think about it- I would want somebody to forgive me being that way (and I have- but maybe not to Bieber level extremes- but fame does things to people.) and so I think you might be right people should let that go and move on from it.

His music still personally doesn't do anything for me. I can't think of any song of his I like. No offense to him & his fans though or anything. I think maybe socionically speaking the reason I don't like it- is that it feels like he's using Fe in this ingenuine way? Even when FE valuers are being really silly I think we also in a way seriously believe in our own silliness it's like complicated idk. But role-ish Fe from Fi valuing quadras comes across as different. I think what I saw from in interviews he came across as Fi valuing. Chelsea Handler got annoyed at his Fi cuz she's really Fe.
Yeah I think he was just so huge before so people saw his mistakes a lot, but if I were him I would have probably attacked people too just because I'm in a bad mood, given that cameras are on me constantly which just adds to the stress.

Yeah I guess it's partly Fi vs Fe. People do think his recent songs are inauthentic somewhat. I took the lyrics at face value because they're coherent to his experiences, like in Holy's lyrics he sang about how he's a sinner and marrying Hailey seemed too rushed to others but he just felt it was right that it was like a holy experience for him. But I guess he's too Fe ignoring that he didn't consider people's current perception of him (he has been the jerk for so long lol) so maybe Fe valuers thought that he was trying to push a new and kinder persona to save his ass, when he could have just toned down a little and waited for the negative perception to fade instead of stirring the pot and grab attention just to speak his truth again (I think this is so common for Fi egos). I understand why that would seem a bit rude and inauthentic. He does things right sometimes (like collabing with Ariana, and fellow singers to make simple and fun hit songs like a decent popstar would), but his Fi is too strong, he probably gets bored or something by doing just that haha