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    I've always wanted type opinions! (Even though I'm almost certainly not going to change my mind). Am I delta? If so, why? Is it obvious that I'm NF, or do you consider NT? In other words, talk about me because I love to hear about myself. (<---not ironic)
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    You're like such a non-stereotypical black guy. You don't seem hard at all, you seem kind of just....okay I don't want to sound mean, but you just sound so empty and clear and kind of vapid. You're just like this.....empty wind or something?

    You don't hold onto your angst and then inflict others with it the way Nick (and sometimes Krae and myself) tend to do. Although you do like debating, there's just this 'emptiness' about you that I think is more along the lines of Delta. It's like you lack a physical core.

    Alpha INTj is also something that I think is possible.

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    You're like such a non-stereotypical black guy. You don't seem hard at all, you seem kind of just....okay I don't want to sound mean, but you just sound so empty and clear and kind of vapid. You're just like this.....empty wind or something?
    All my violence is rhetorical.

    How do you find me empty and clear? Or rather, what is it that I lack? Physicality? I am off the ground as much as possible. I don't like the ground. Or maybe it's because I'm so rhetorical that I have become a non-entity, like if you move fast enough you lose all your mass.
    Not a rule, just a trend.

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    It's a psychological energy thing and perception. You might be very different in real life.

    And yeah you do seem like a misty non-identity of sorts. Just like idk...you're just so breezy.

    I don't feel like you get my core or my 'truth' as it were. It's like we pass over each other, although still being able to understand- you're like Luciddreams in that way too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    I don't feel like you get my core or my 'truth' as it were. It's like we pass over each other, although still being able to understand- you're like Luciddreams in that way too.
    I agree. I couldn't. I basically understand you almost entirely by projecting myself onto you. And... you can't really learn a person unless you're willing to sit under a tree and let them teach you, and you can't do that if you're trying to find your own tree and... I mean, I just being melodramatic, but I feel like I can be discursive like this and IEIs will know what I mean? Or maybe I'm just wrong. Shrug.

    And yeah you do seem like a misty non-identity of sorts. Just like idk...you're just so breezy.
    It's because my goal is to become Shakespeare. Who is a misty non-identity.
    Not a rule, just a trend.

    IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.

    Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music...

    I am grateful for the mystery of the soul, because without it, there could be no contemplation, except of the mysteries of divinity, which are far more dangerous to get wrong.

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    I've always seen you as IEI. I think the heavy usage is obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    You're like such a non-stereotypical black guy. You don't seem hard at all, you seem kind of just....okay I don't want to sound mean, but you just sound so empty and clear and kind of vapid. You're just like this.....empty wind or something?

    You don't hold onto your angst and then inflict others with it the way Nick (and sometimes Krae and myself) tend to do. Although you do like debating, there's just this 'emptiness' about you that I think is more along the lines of Delta. It's like you lack a physical core.

    Alpha INTj is also something that I think is possible.
    I am sure SC is IEI in a way that Baby (Auvi) is IEI, namely more grounded and stable. Being openly angsty and volatile is one way IEIs can express themselves (especially young ones), but it's not the way IEIs necessarily are.

    So SC, I don't think you are IEE. :wink:
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    From what I've read of you, I find it hard to believe that you're anything other than INFp.

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    but the aversion to volitional pressure just doesn't make sense!

    If silverchris is IEI, then he should be dual-seeking Se, and love it when it happens. I dont know, can other IEIs comment? I have a hard time understanding how anyone would like that.

    Silverchris has never come across to me like the other IEIs here (except perhaps redbaron).

    Maybe you are an alpha, silverchris? I remember seeing a video of you acting or something, WAY back in the beginning of the year. I would say you have creative Fe, or you're at least Fe valuing maybe. So, maybe SEI or LII?
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverchris9
    I suppose I do have some degree of aversion to volitional pressure, but it's just that I can't imagine being screamed at in earnest.
    I suppose a question i'd like to ask, if any INFps can answer it, well anyone. Does anyone really like to be screamed at in earnest?

    I suppose i'm wondering if this is a socionics related thing (ie Se types scream at people and it's liked by Se seekers) or if it's not related, it's just that the person who is screaming has other issues and not related to socionics.

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    OK. So, I'm going to say it after all... since you've mentioned NT as an option, I suppose it's a clue to go on. Several times now - the first a few months ago - I thought you are the other Ni dominant. There were several reasons - the way you write as opposed to other IEIs, the way you don't seem to have Te-PoLR (and react to Te with Ti-HA), which is something I usually stumble over in discussion with IEIs, somehow focus on logic, but not absolute, which I'd associate with Ti (I imagine this might be the "core" B&D speaks about; I sure see it in some IEIs as absolutism), and what you've said about your relation with LSE claiming conflict can be overcome sounded more like supervision to me. In this last case, I considered suggesting the person was mistyped but decided against it since you seemed pretty close to and sure about the types of people involved, but later it made sense it might be you. Each time, I wasn't going to say anything since I can hardly imagine how you could have mistyped as Fe-ego if this was the case. Although aixel apparently was there, so it's possible. But you also seem to have an understanding of information elements, which would probably make it more likely that you self-type right and you'd realize it if you were indeed weak at Feeling; on top of that, starting a type debate wasn't something I wanted anyway, since real life and forum persona may be very different things and if you say you're Fe-subtype and 4w3, you have probably some good reasons for that. So, I suppose it's not something to be taken too seriously, but at the same time I needed to say it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiss View Post
    OK. So, I'm going to say it after all... since you've mentioned NT as an option, I suppose it's a clue to go on. Several times now - the first a few months ago - I thought you are the other Ni dominant. There were several reasons - the way you write as opposed to other IEIs, the way you don't seem to have Te-PoLR (and react to Te with Ti-HA), which is something I usually stumble over in discussion with IEIs, somehow focus on logic, but not absolute, which I'd associate with Ti (I imagine this might be the "core" B&D speaks about; I sure see it in some IEIs as absolutism), and what you've said about your relation with LSE claiming conflict can be overcome sounded more like supervision to me. In this last case, I considered suggesting the person was mistyped but decided against it since you seemed pretty close to and sure about the types of people involved, but later it made sense it might be you. Each time, I wasn't going to say anything since I can hardly imagine how you could have mistyped as Fe-ego if this was the case. Although aixel apparently was there, so it's possible. But you also seem to have an understanding of information elements, which would probably make it more likely that you self-type right and you'd realize it if you were indeed weak at Feeling; on top of that, starting a type debate wasn't something I wanted anyway, since real life and forum persona may be very different things and if you say you're Fe-subtype and 4w3, you have probably some good reasons for that. So, I suppose it's not something to be taken too seriously, but at the same time I needed to say it.
    I like this post.

    I dunno, I've always been tight with ILIs. I would consider ILI much sooner and much more thoroughly than I would consider IEE. But I do think that I am too interested in displaying my emotions and manipulating others' to really consider an Fe-polr type. Unless something is seriously wrong with me. I do consider emotional expression an inherent good, and emotional suppression an inherent evil, or at least, not to be desired under ordinary circumstances. On the other hand, my SLE friend does not consider emotional expression an inherent good, and the only other type he could really be is ILE (i.e., still Fe valuing), so maybe that isn't as much evidence as I'd like to think. Also, I believe that both baby and hkkmr have pointed out that some of my biases in thinking could be attributed or related to Te-polr, and I agree with that analysis, although I am glad I hide it well, apparently. Do I react to Te with Ti? How?

    I think that the way that he responds to the literature that he reads is distinctly IEI.
    As God is my witness I fervently hope and pray that this is false.
    Not a rule, just a trend.

    IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.

    Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music...

    I am grateful for the mystery of the soul, because without it, there could be no contemplation, except of the mysteries of divinity, which are far more dangerous to get wrong.

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    This is why I think you're not Ni ego....Ni and Ne...one knows the other is certain.

    Quote Originally Posted by silverchris9 View Post
    Regarding the question of how what I describe differs from Ne, I think the difference is really encapsulated in terms of internal and external.

    Ne-valuers work productively in situational uncertainty. I define situational uncertainty as uncertainty about what will happen. !
    No one can come up with any examples of you Being Ni ego/valuing...everyone just wants to make you happy...

    PLEASE FIND EXAMPLES TO SUPPORT YOUR CONCLUSIONS...THANKS.

    My mom is Ni ego, she is certain about what will happen if you don't do the things you're supposed to do now...she's never facing fears of uncertaintly that I find many Ni PoLR people especially worrying about...as well as weak Ni's do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverchris9 View Post
    I've always wanted type opinions! (Even though I'm almost certainly not going to change my mind). Am I delta? If so, why? Is it obvious that I'm NF, or do you consider NT? In other words, talk about me because I love to hear about myself. (<---not ironic)
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverchris9 View Post
    Don't have time to respond, lengthily, b/c I have to get back to work, but just wanted to say, I consider all discussion of my person both fascinating and gratifying, and feel that it should continue.
    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverchris9 View Post
    Am I delta?
    The only Delta type that's plausible for you is IEE.

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    I think you are an IEI
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