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  • ILE (ENTp)

    1 5.00%
  • SEI (ISFp)

    1 5.00%
  • ESE (ESFj)

    2 10.00%
  • LII (INTj)

    0 0%
  • SLE (ESTp)

    1 5.00%
  • IEI (INFp)

    0 0%
  • EIE (ENFj)

    5 25.00%
  • LSI (ISTj)

    0 0%
  • SEE (ESFp)

    8 40.00%
  • ILI (INTp)

    3 15.00%
  • LIE (ENTj)

    0 0%
  • ESI (ISFj)

    0 0%
  • IEE (ENFp)

    0 0%
  • SLI (ISTp)

    0 0%
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    0 0%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    That's your decision, not mine. Stop wasting time with passive-aggressive pinpricks, coward.
    It is not a pinprick and it is not passive aggressive. It is your decision, Galen. I am taking control of my life, tell me why in the world should I waste my life essence on you?


    Step out from k0rpsey's and Ashton's wings and drop the blowhard persona, Galen. Step up and be your own man.
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    jfc, esc. you're being ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    It is not a pinprick and it is not passive aggressive. It is your decision, Galen. I am taking control of my life, tell me why in the world should I waste my life essence on you?
    How is me telling you why you should or should not do something an example of you taking control of your own life? It's entirely your prerogative if you want to waste your own time, that decision lies squarely on your own shoulders.


    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Step out from k0rpsey's and Ashton's wings and drop the blowhard persona, Galen. Step up and be your own man.
    So you're not going to answer my question then. Cool cop-out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    How is me telling you why you should or should not do something an example of you taking control of your own life? It's entirely your prerogative if you want to waste your own time.



    So you're not going to answer my question then. Cool cop-out.
    The fallacies in ashton's post were pretty obvious.

    It might be wise to stop yes-manning in discussions you don't grasp.
    <Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not

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    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    The fallacies in ashton's post were pretty obvious.

    It might be wise to stop yes-manning in discussions you don't grasp.
    Thirded...still waiting for him and Poli to start having their own thoughts...I can't blame Ashton any more, its not like he force feeds them the KoolAid, not even his style. But weak people will always cling to those stronger than themselves.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
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    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clumsy View Post
    I've always thought SEI-Fe for her.

    Also, SEI-Fe's can definitely be confrontational. I think there is some kind of stereotype that xEI automatically means you are overly timid or sweet when that is really not always the case.
    yes, especially Fe-SEIs; them, generally quiet? Hahahaha...

    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    I used to like her... I enjoyed her album - guilty pleasure.

    I think I saw a video of her and I did relate to it somewhat but I don't really see myself as that similar to her. Her MTV performance especially... it was like not actually being aware of how to use Fe.. it was just a mess. Just shock for the sake of shock. It's kinda sad that people think I act like her? WTF?
    Fe + Ne/Si = absolute fucking confusing bewildering aimless mess

    I have an Fe-SEI acquaintance/buddy/something, and it's always that kinda stuff from him... I can't follow the dude at all! Likable guy though; I keep things light with him, there really is no other viable option...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Thirded...still waiting for him and Poli to start having their own thoughts...I can't blame Ashton any more, its not like he force feeds them the KoolAid, not even his style. But weak people will always cling to those stronger than themselves.
    Are you serious? Everything I've said in this thread has been derived from my own observations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    How is me telling you why you should or should not do something an example of you taking control of your own life? It's entirely your prerogative if you want to waste your own time, that decision lies squarely on your own shoulders.
    You're right. I have to decide if you're worth it and take you on. But so far you don't seem so, that's why I'm offering you the opportunity to change that.

    So you're not going to answer my question then. Cool cop-out.
    I will if you want me to, it's no big deal really. Just show me you're actually interested in debate and will receive benefit from my effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    You're right. I have to decide if you're worth it and take you on. But so far you don't seem so, that's why I'm offering you the opportunity to change that.
    I'm not going to prove my worth to you, that's something you have to determine for yourself. It seems like you already have, so there's no point in even talking about this now.

    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    I will if you want me to, it's no big deal really. Just show me you're actually interested in debate and will derive benefit from my effort.
    How was me asking you questions in the first place not an offer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    I'm not going to prove my worth to you, that's something you have to determine for yourself. It seems like you already have, so there's no point in even talking about this now.
    Hmm. I guess you're right, oh well.


    How was me asking you questions in the first place not an offer?
    You're well known for your sarcasm, Galen. How do you expect me to gauge your sincerity, especially online?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    Pretty sure what I posted was sarcasm at glam. Why are you and ESC throwing yourselves out there as bait? Are you two really that gullible and defensive?
    No but you are that insecure to try turn the situation around to cover your errors. Typical Ashton-ness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    You're well known for your sarcasm, Galen. How do you expect me to gauge your sincerity, especially online?
    By developing a sense of emotional intelligence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    Turn it around? It was obvious sarcasm when I 1st posted it.
    Obvious to you, you mean.

    To make it easier, I'll just assume you're always being sarcastic since you don't seem interested in being sincere and serious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    By developing a sense of emotional intelligence.
    Alright, but you have to cut back on your passive-aggressive sarcasm, and be more of an independent thinker. Deal?
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    People on here say ludicrous things all the time because we insist both sides of the hypothetical to get a clear perspective, doesn't mean we mean everything we say. It's not really emotional intelligence, it's being able to grasp what is ludicrous or isn't. If you don't think it was obvious sarcasm then you have mental problems or maybe are just pulling one over on all of us. But I really don't know what to expect from some of you weirdos so I'm putting the truth out there and take what you want from it even if it sounds rash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Alright, but you have to cut back on your passive-aggressive sarcasm, and be more of an independent thinker. Deal?
    1. no
    2. Were you to read the words on the screen, you would see:
    Quote Originally Posted by me
    Are you serious? Everything I've said in this thread has been derived from my own observations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    1. no
    2. Were you to read the words on the screen, you would see:
    Quote Originally Posted by you
    Are you serious? Everything I've said in this thread has been derived from my own observations.
    1.) Why not?

    2.) Okay Galen, if you say so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    1.) Why not?
    Because it's a good exercise so you can learn to intuitively understanding other people. I'm helping you out!

    By the by, how is it that you're taking control of your life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    Because it's a good exercise so you can learn to intuitively understanding other people. I'm helping you out!
    Thanks!

    By the by, how is it that you're taking control of your life?
    Well, do you realize that, when it really comes down to it, you are your own person, body and all? Whatever obligations the world puts on you, overt or subliminal, it is ultimately up to you to decide what you will commit yourself to in life. It is by making the Self more aware of these subtle and obvious influxes of external accountabilities that one can begin to become more in control of one's life and power of choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Well, do you realize that, when it really comes down to it, you are your own person, body and all? Whatever obligations the world puts on you, overt or subliminal, it is ultimately up to you to decide what you will commit yourself to in life. It is by making the Self more aware of these subtle and obvious influxes of external accountabilities that one can begin to become more in control of one's life and power of choice.
    So then what have you *actually* done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    So then what have you *actually* done?
    More of what I want to do and less of what the world leads me to do. For example, I continue to respond because I am interested in what Galen has to say. Not because we just ended up in conversation and responding back-and-forth is the usual flow of events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    More of what I want to do and less of what the world leads me to do. For example, I continue to respond because I am interested in what Galen has to say. Not because we just ended up in conversation and responding back-and-forth is the usual flow of events.
    So you haven't changed your actions as they pertain to the real world, instead honing your focus on one place where productivity and self-fulfillment are all but impossible to achieve. Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    So you haven't changed your actions as they pertain to the real world, instead honing your focus on one place where productivity and self-fulfillment are all but impossible to achieve. Interesting.
    On the contrary, the previous example serves to help you see my point, not as the the defining meaning of what I'm conveying.

    This has been interesting, though unless you have a considerable objection, I will choose to focus on something else. If you ever want to take me up on my offer, you know how to reach me. Sayōnara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    In interviews she isn't anywhere near as exaggerated in her demeanor or behavior than in her music videos. She seems much more naturally relaxed and composed in many of the clips I've seen of her, which would have me think IP > EJ. On top of that I don't get the same spaced-out tinge to her as I see in Ni egos. Compare her to someone like Janelle Monae, who I estimate is Fe-INFp:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFYou-c7HKE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkAHDFWtlPo

    What you're saying about her being an "actor, thus ENFj" sounds like an appeal to a vague and highly interpretable stereotype, and I see no reason for any Fe subtype to be unable to create and implement personas in the same way. Sure she may be highly aware of her characters (I'd be astonished if she wasn't), but it's pretty clear in her live performances that she plays up these characters for laughs. If I could find a video of her recent performance at the Grammys I'd post it as such an example.
    no i have also watched lots of videos and interviews of Nicki and i don't agree that she is low-energy or go-with-the-flow enough to be considered Ip temperament. even if i am wrong and she actually is Ip temperament, i would consider IEI before i would consider SEI.

    i am not sure of Janelle Monae's type and don't care to consider it in-depth atm, but i have gotten the impression before that she might be another Beta NF. so this isn't really proving a quadra difference to me here between these two women.

    there is nothing wrong to me with considering the titles assigned to the types. they are not there just to sound impressive and be useless, they are names that describe the behavior and role in society that each of the types play. i am not going to type Nicki, a fiery-tempered person who does things such as writing a confrontational song calling a rival rapper a "stupid hoe" over and over again, as a "Peacemaker" type.

    the entire point of typing is to categorize people, so obviously people must follow some type of criteria to be categorized (typed) a certain way. obviously stereotypes will be born out of such systems, but i am not trying to stereotype so much as i am trying to find the best way to get the pieces of evidence to fit. for example, another reason i can't consider SEI is because i don't believe Nicki is the type of person an ILE would need. an ILE needs a soft and gentle kind of person, to calm them down and to be naturally diplomatic - a description that does not fit Nicki. on the other hand, LSIs are energized by fiery, dramatic people like Nicki, so to me that is more evidence that EIE is a better typing for Nicki than SEI.

    also i don't know why you're talking about me stereotyping, when you yourself give reasons such as "I don't get the same spaced-out tinge to her as I see in Ni egos" in order to dismiss an EIE typing for Nicki. come on now.

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    This is what Ej temperament looks like:



    Notice how engaging Tyra is, how her emotionality flows along with her words and it seems to be connected with her environment, with the interviewer. She is kind of the person who could make you smile by just smiling herself. Like her entire body is putting in the effort when communicating. Her energy when speaking is fairly high, fairly active, she talks fast and knows what to say and which gestures to make intuitively without much effort. This is because of Fe as the dominant function.

    Now compare that to Nicki:



    The manner of speaking is slower, less energetic, more detached. She looks inside herself when deliberating, thinking what to say next and remains inside herself, running over her thoughts. Her voice is monotonous, which indicates a more distant disposition, in stark contrast with Tyra. Her processing time is slower, even though the final product she presents is framed in terms of Fe. Although her movements are fluid, she doesn't move much, doesn't invest herself physically (I > E).

    I'm describing what I see because it seems often what's obvious for me is not obvious for other people.

    I don't know what you're seeing Starfall. EIE or any manner of extrovert is a ridiculous typing.

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    She is ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    This is what Ej temperament looks like:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvC2BtSzRBA

    Notice how engaging Tyra is, how her emotionality flows along with her words and it seems to be connected with her environment, with the interviewer. She is kind of the person who could make you smile by just smiling herself. Like her entire body is putting in the effort when communicating. Her energy when speaking is fairly high, fairly active, she talks fast and knows what to say and which gestures to make intuitively without much effort. This is because of Fe as the dominant function.

    Now compare that to Nicki:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho7lnT6vXHo

    The manner of speaking is slower, less energetic, more detached. She looks inside herself when deliberating, thinking what to say next and remains inside herself, running over her thoughts. Her voice is monotonous, which indicates a more distant disposition, in stark contrast with Tyra. Her processing time is slower, even though the final product she presents is framed in terms of Fe. Although her movements are fluid, she doesn't move much, doesn't invest herself physically (I > E).

    I'm describing what I see because it seems often what's obvious for me is not obvious for other people.

    I don't know what you're seeing Starfall. EIE or any manner of extrovert is a ridiculous typing.
    first off i believe Tyra is not Fe-base but probably Se-SEE. i see what you are saying, but i think the differences that you are describing here i believe have a lot to do with Sensing vs Intuition. overall Intuiters are more in their heads and while communicating (like Nicki), while Sensors are more concentrated on responding the immediate environment (like Tyra).

    i think you could consider more the kinds of things these two focus on or on their behaviors, instead of just on these impressionistic views of how they speak. i'm not saying this is irrelevant information, but overall, standing on its own, it's weaker than other forms of evidence.

    nobody still has sufficiently explained why Nicki is SEI and not EIE: why she is an ILE's dual, why she is Si-base, why she is Alpha, etc. in a way i'm not surprised because imo it's a bad typing and there isn't much evidence to support it; i think its "validity" is dependent on propagating a warped view of who Nicki is.

    another not-SEI quote from Nicki http://www.rapbasement.com/nicki-min...lick-here.html
    "Once I figure something is irritating people, I'm going to do it more," she says, smiling, "because I like to get on your nerves until you realize how fucking stupid you are."

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post

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    Glam and other BM theorists like the krigweedians who can't move beyond shallow, appearance-based determinism that confounds mental phenomena with behavioral epiphenomena, you have zero business making claims about psychological theories. Your ludicrously color-by-numbers approach to typology is worse than simply preaching astrology, because it deceptively purports to be scientific when it is anything but. If you sewers of superstition have any hope for credibility among non-idiots, drop A. Augusta for B.F. Skinner and turn your stunted faculties to the study of rats and pigeons confined to laboratory boxes, not that of humans at large within the open world.

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    Glam and other BM theorists like the krigweedians who can't move beyond shallow, appearance-based determinism that confounds mental phenomena with behavioral epiphenomena, you have zero business making claims about psychological theories. Your ludicrously color-by-numbers approach to typology is worse than simply preaching astrology, because it deceptively purports to be scientific when it is anything but. If you sewers of superstition have any hope for credibility among non-idiots, drop A. Augusta for B.F. Skinner and turn your stunted faculties to the study of rats and pigeons confined to laboratory boxes, not that of humans at large within the open world.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekpyrosos View Post
    Glam and other BM theorists like the krigweedians who can't move beyond shallow, appearance-based determinism that confounds mental phenomena with behavioral epiphenomena, you have zero business making claims about psychological theories. Your ludicrously color-by-numbers approach to typology is worse than simply preaching astrology, because it deceptively purports to be scientific when it is anything but. If you sewers of superstition have any hope for credibility among non-idiots, drop A. Augusta for B.F. Skinner and turn your stunted faculties to the study of rats and pigeons confined to laboratory boxes, not that of humans at large within the open world.
    lol wth, "krigweedian"? Krig and niffweed don't even have similar approaches to socionics from what i can tell. and tbh, i happen to think whatever niffweed does isn't even really socionics, since he rejects so much of the theory (such as intertype relations) and has so many typings i completely disagree with. i can't take his socionics views seriously.

    anyway, you're one to talk about faulty uses of socionics - i regularly see you make criticisms about socionics and talk about it like it's fantasy, only to turn around a second later and make definitive claims such as "Alphas suck at typing." you talk about socionics like it's a bunch of nonsense that can't be taken seriously, but then continue to employ it regularly, especially when you want to criticize or troll someone. which is it? you are always contradicting yourself and can't hold a real position - one second something is true for you, and the next it isn't. you're doing it right now, by criticizing me and my use of socionics, saying that it's worse than astrology. at least i can hold a consistent position and attempt to defend it. unlike you, i don't pretend socionics is both real and imaginary. have fun with your doublethink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glam View Post
    lol wth, "krigweedian"? Krig and niffweed don't even have similar approaches to socionics from what i can tell.
    Marie and Krig are ridiculously prescriptive behaviorists who've admitted to an occasional innocent fling with lil' Niff, and their typings show a high degree of concurrence, so it's hardly unreasonable to assume a likely convergence of views.

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    and tbh, i happen to think whatever niffweed does isn't even really socionics, since he rejects so much of the theory (such as intertype relations) and has so many typings i completely disagree with. i can't take his socionics views seriously.
    Congrats on avoiding complete insensiblity, though the bulk of what you've just said simply boils down to another conflict between ex cathedra dogmaticism and exegetic heterodoxy.

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    anyway, you're one to talk about faulty uses of socionics - i regularly see you make criticisms about socionics and talk about it like it's fantasy, only to turn around a second later and make definitive claims such as "Alphas suck at typing." you talk about socionics like it's a bunch of nonsense that can't be taken seriously, but then continue to employ it regularly, especially when you want to criticize or troll someone. which is it?
    Obviously it's both since I chose to play the game of socionics from within as well as without.

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    you are always contradicting yourself and can't hold a real position - one second something is true for you, and the next it isn't. you're doing it right now, by criticizing me and my use of socionics, saying that it's worse than astrology. at least i can hold a consistent position and attempt to defend it.
    My authentic and consistent position is that socionics has partial utility and partial validity, and where it seems to possess both these qualities in the majority then I approach it positively. Where it does not I approach it negatively. In other words socionics is a coin with two sides, and I flip that bitch as a means to other ends, not just as an end in itself. However, if you're incapable of discarding its chaff to draw from its wheat, or seeing it as anything but an inviolably self-sufficient whole, then that's your handicap, and it will prevent you from making proper sense of my methods or views.

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    at least i can hold a consistent position and attempt to defend it.
    So can many lunatics and cranks. That doesn't make their arguments correct.

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    unlike you, i don't pretend socionics is both real and imaginary.
    The imaginary is contingent upon and subsumed within the real, and socionics' realness and its validity are distinct properties.

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    have fun with your doublethink.
    And to you with your simplistic beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekpyrosos View Post
    Marie and Krig are ridiculously prescriptive behaviorists who've admitted to an occasional innocent fling with lil' Niff, and their typings show a high degree of concurrence, so it's hardly unreasonable to assume a likely convergence of views.
    i don't have a typelist out there to compare concurrence levels with (and if i do it is likely massively outdated), so i doubt i can be properly grouped with anyone else based on typings with any high degree of confidence - especially not with niffweed, who, as i stated before, has a large number of typings (of both forum members and famous people) that i disagree with, and whose socionics beliefs are not similar to mine.

    Congrats on avoiding complete insensiblity, though the bulk of what you've just said simply boils down to another conflict between ex cathedra dogmaticism and exegetic heterodoxy.
    meaning...? i have no interest in promoting any sort of "orthodox" socionics, if that's what you are implying. if there exists some perceived war between "orthodox" and "heterodox" socionists, please count me out of it.

    Obviously it's both since I chose to play the game of socionics from within as well as without.

    My authentic and consistent position is that socionics has partial utility and partial validity, and where it seems to possess both these qualities in the majority then I approach it positively. Where it does not I approach it negatively. In other words socionics is a coin with two sides, and I flip that bitch as a means to other ends, not just as an end in itself. However, if you're incapable of discarding its chaff to draw from its wheat, or seeing it as anything but an inviolably self-sufficient whole, then that's your handicap, and it will prevent you from making proper sense of my methods or views.
    no, i understand what you do. you complicate and obfuscate everything, by dismissing any certain or simple-to-understand explanations, allowing yourself to accept half-truths and contradictions, arguing irrelevant semantics - together creating a vague morass of broad interpretations lacking any real substance or sound viewpoint, in order to not let yourself be pinned down or have to commit to a real position. how convenient!

    So can many lunatics and cranks. That doesn't make their arguments correct.
    obviously; i never claimed anything of the sort. i said what i said to highlight my behavior vs yours (not having the balls to take a real consistent position regarding socionics' validity, whilst regularly going around criticizing those who do.)

    The imaginary is contingent upon and subsumed within the real, and socionics' realness and its validity are distinct properties.
    more semantics from you in order to obfuscate and avoid the point. saying something like "types don't exist" (something i've seen you say before) while still going into threads assigning typings to people (which you do) are blatantly contradictory behaviors. it's like a person declaring that God doesn't exist, while still going around trying to convert people to a religion so that they can eventually go to heaven and be with God. you say something doesn't exist, while still giving it enough credence to apply in real life. it is utter nonsense, no matter how you want to spin it.

    And to you with your simplistic beliefs.
    yes, comparatively speaking to yourself, my views are "simplistic", because i don't have to rearrange my mind around to allow for and effectively employ doublethink - a complicated process indeed

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    So, you can't separate thought from belief, plausible from real, or visible behavior from the hidden mental processes that drive it. You also feel I should be blamed for your inability to understand why I find that deplorable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Communication is a two-way street.
    Well, Sir Dagonet, if you'd care to rescue glam from the pitfalls of her self-defeating mind then you're certainly invited to swing your deadly marotte my way.

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