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    Initially the test sites I found (and a couple of good friends who have been studying socionics for years) placed me squarely in the IEE camp, and I was fine with that.

    I found a couple of other tests today, though, that place me as perhaps IEE, perhaps ESE... and the majority of both descriptions fit me. But they're not even in the same quadrant so.. huh?

    Thoughts? Suggestions on how to figure out my "real" type?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GallopingQwerty View Post
    Initially the test sites I found (and a couple of good friends who have been studying socionics for years) placed me squarely in the IEE camp, and I was fine with that.

    I found a couple of other tests today, though, that place me as perhaps IEE, perhaps ESE... and the majority of both descriptions fit me. But they're not even in the same quadrant so.. huh?

    Thoughts? Suggestions on how to figure out my "real" type?
    What set of quadra values do you most resonate with? That can sometimes be helpful. If you're IEE you'll probably prefer delta; if you're ESE you'll probably prefer alpha.

    Here's some information on quadras:

    Socionics :: Quadras

    Quadra - Wikisocion


    Another approach to take is to think of the people you get along best and those you get along worst with. What types are they? Then think about the type of relation you have with that person. Is it a dual relation? Conflict? Supervision? etc. Of course this method only works if you're sure of the other person's type.

    Here's some information on relations in socionics:

    Socionics :: Intertype Relations

    Intertype relations - Wikisocion
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    I'd say give it time. Allow Socionics to consume your mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warrior-librarian View Post
    What set of quadra values do you most resonate with? That can sometimes be helpful. If you're IEE you'll probably prefer delta; if you're ESE you'll probably prefer alpha.

    Here's some information on quadras:

    Socionics :: Quadras

    Quadra - Wikisocion
    According to the definitions on those pages, I'm... still both, with no super strong pull of one over the other. Quite a few of them work together in my mind.

    For example, from Delta: "The Delta Quadra doesn't appreciate high ideals or abstractions that don't relate well to real life. Types from the Delta Quadra value pragmatism, hard work, beautifully functional items, and earthy humor and enjoy "productive" relationships where people do projects together. "

    And from Alpha: "The Alpha Quadra is especially sensitive to and critical of mercantilistic views, ostentatious displays of wealth and status symbols, rude and aggressive behavior, moral criticism, and people who suggest they are wasting their time on unproductive things."

    Both of these are true for me at the same time. For example: one of my favourite jobs has been working as a theatre technician, which is a pragmatic job where you do something productive with a small group of people... in order to be part of the larger picture of a full scale artistic endeavor. And I always gain just as great a pleasure from watching the completed show as I do being part of its creation.

    And from Delta: "Types of this quadra enjoy discussing people, internal motivation, and self-development. They are usually emotionally subdued and like to discuss topics seriously with the intention of implementing their conclusions."

    From Alpha: "Types from the Alpha Quadra enjoy freely exchanging new ideas and theories as a form of intellectual leisure. They like to systematize knowledge and create new categories and speculative hypotheses without necessarily intending to see their theories tested or implemented."

    I do both, on a regular basis. I LOVE spending hours at parties working random ideas back and forth with no real plan of action... just as much as I love latching on to one or two with the right people, and going off to the side to work out how we're going to implement it from start to finish. I am equally comfortable discussing random ideas with no future as I am the ones that will actually happen.

    And I am also equally capable of discussing ideas with subdued emotion as I am with strong emotion, although I do lean a bit more toward emotion on that particular point.

    Feh...
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    I am definitely a 7, and most likely an IEE. Stay tuned for further updates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    You are not an IEE, try Alpha. I think ESE is your type and you may change that in your signature as far as possible.
    I would, except that I fit just about everything I've ever read about IEE to the letter.

    Either there are other folks that feel stuck between two very different types also, or maybe these types aren't as clearly set apart as some might think. I can't be the only one out there with this issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GallopingQwerty View Post
    I would, except that I fit just about everything I've ever read about IEE to the letter.
    If everything you read about IEE fits so well, what's the problem? Does ESE fit better, or do you suspect what you're reading in IEE description could be easily molded to fit almost anyone, or do you think you're like that, but not necessarily much more so than most people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    You are not an IEE, try Alpha. I think ESE is your type and you may change that in your signature as far as possible.
    Try looking at her writing..

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
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    I think i've read you say on the forums that you've opened up some non profit charity shop, you shaved your hair for cancer, and I think you've indicated some artisic type works (theatre or something). Anyway I get the impression that Humanitarian club works for you pretty good.
    And this is supposed to indicated delta?

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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by GallopingQwerty View Post
    I do both, on a regular basis. I LOVE spending hours at parties working random ideas back and forth with no real plan of action... just as much as I love latching on to one or two with the right people, and going off to the side to work out how we're going to implement it from start to finish. I am equally comfortable discussing random ideas with no future as I am the ones that will actually happen.
    valuing then - it's probably one of your main values (base or suggestive function).

    Definitely learning what the information elements and functions are all about is many times more valuable than reading descriptions. If you understand that then you can write descriptions yourself.

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    It is the usual that people are content with their types for years and then when they come here they start jumping all over the shop.

    qwerters, I'd recommend some specific further reading for the functions, but I don't feel that public typing threads are the best place for such discussions over all, people usually end up fighting over what everyone else has said and i've frankly got too much other things going on to bother with debates I and people have had many times over that never become satiated in a general correct consensus.

    So, eh, yeah, just take time and see how you get on. Don't expect to learn it overnight, and i'd say - don't let yourself be consumed or governed by all this too much - just remember it's only a theory really, and first and foremost you are a person.

    I will say also though - a lot of what you learn will probably be useless outwith a theoritical context, you've survived long enough dealing with yourself and others and your life I assume in the context of what you've always typed yourself. I simply don't expect to socionics provide enough answers to issues of psychology any more so than the stage you are probably at, but then, it does have some basic uses (whether they are useful to you or not I dunno).

    I suppose i'd ask, what do you think you are looking for from socionics, anything in particular? Maybe knowing what you're looking for I can give you some answers as to the usefulness of it in the cases.

    Oh, and as something Rick said to me before, what I asked him something along the lines of what is the point of internet socionics, he replied, "a mental exercise". Which is kinda true, heh.

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    You seem ENFp.

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