WITH MY DICK
WITH MY DICK
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not
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Oh, I'm perfectly aware I can be aggressive or angry at times, I don't deny that such traits are part of my psychological make up, together with a gazillion other traits, some of which I apply appropriately and sometimes inappropriately. Like any sane person has and does. You, however, claim to be a perfect EII Holy Virgin who has no such feelings, no, you only have loving and warm feelings or other people. For th average psychologist, this alone is 'evidence' for a very hostile personality.
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
Volitile and emotionally sensitive not hostile. Perhapse you like to define words before you make even more unfounded assumptions.
Never have I said that I am perfect in any sense or that I don't have qualities that I would rather have. And where exactly did I say I was a virgin?
@Pirate
I had two serious long lasting relationships
And three or so short ones.
None were black and if he was then that would have made no difference in how I felt for the individual.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I bet maritsas been fucked by a black guy
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not
Don't worry about my interactions with Maritsa. There is a purpose to everything :wink:
As to her being IEE, thatś always a possibility, but in that case we must consider her having some strong sort of pathology, because her style of reasoning is totally different to what I consider IEE style reasoning, such as we see in Mariella or Rick DeLong.
Going by her pictures, she could be a leading Fi type, but I think her behavior looks like Ti-mobilizing. This, of course, is a contradiction in terms, and I think there is something else wrong with her. Could be anything: mood disorder, schyzotypy or schizofrenia, personality disorder, whatever.
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
1. I choose my own words as I see fit: you have a suppressed hostility and agrssion in you.
2. Yes, you did strongly make implications on various occasions on your virtuousness
3. I never said you were a virgin, but that you present yourself as if you were the Holy Virgin. Read more carefully!
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
If you had any sense between your ears you could see the above as Se PoLR with Fi leading, then that would be EII...huh who knew? Do you know that just about every SEE has told me that they think I have a disorder? maybe you are Ti Polr.]
I know what my dual would tell me right now. It's that you are illogical, irrational human being and that I should not communicate with you any longer, so goodbye. You're not worth it.
You can't communicate intelligently on a topic; you just chose this moment to fire at me; what a waste of a good Se ego.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I have a lot of sense between my ears thank you! You could very well be EII, but how significant is it to be a certain type when you have rigid personality traits that are so strong, that type no longer plays a significant part in the total of your personality and behaviors? How important is type if you suffer from strong bipolar disorder, or schizophrenia or some other severe mental illness?
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: no other person can hurt you emotionally. If you get depressed (and I have had a history of three years of depression), itis because reality clashes with your assumptions and expetations. But reality isn't wrong in that case, your assumptions and expectations are. Depression can have many causes, but you might consider the option that depression in your case is caused by you fighting reality.
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
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a really hung one too
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
Maritsa is one of the absolute worst typers in the16types history, behind only maybe dio. I'm trying to think of some other historically bad typers. Anyway, you're in no position to cast stones, Maritsa.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
WHY DID U CHANGE YOUR AVATAR BACK
THIS ONE DOES NOT FLATTER YOU HONEY
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Yes, true. I know what you mean, and I've met a few as well. And, this subtyping would help explain the difference between Maritsa and other IEEs, on this board. It would certainly help to explain a few other things I've thought about too. I'll weigh this against my original base typing for her.
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According to this, I'd be an Ne subtype, but most people who are into subtypes call me an Fi subtype. Not saying they're right and you're wrong or anything really, as I'm not sure where I stand on the whole subtype issue in the first place. Just saying that I would be Ne subtype based on that.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Another possibility that I almost hate to throw out as Maritsa will jump on it, is that what you call "Ne subtype" is IEE, and what you call "Fi subtype" is EII.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
The nuance, I think is exactly how Pinocchio explains it - "IEE is the one who feels the compulsion to "tell" others and communicate this to them". It's more irrational energy, IMO, I don't think an EII (even the EII-Ne subtype) would have that same level of compulsion. That is why there is such a contrast with Maritsa and the EIIs. The energy level is very different, if thought of in terms of temperament.
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It sounds like maybe you're saying that EIIs and IEEs have more in common than the two subtypes of IEE? It seems like an IEE of one subtype would be moer similar to an IEE of another subtype than either would be to an EII. I'm just a bit skeptical of the whole thing. Or not on board completely maybe. I don't know, maybe I need to just think about it longer.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
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I don't even really know Maritsa, but even having been here less than a week I can tell you she's not an IEE.
Sure she's vocal, and there's definitely an element of Telling there, but she's also mostly (seemingly) interested in imposing her view of the world/conversation/situation as the only possible correct one. If someone says something that does not agree with this view, it is waived away as unimportant, not real, not true, or something to be changed through persuasion: this is not IEE either. IEE tends to want to discuss things, posit theories, ask questions, hear other points of view even if they personally disagree.
Just being really vocal in writing doesn't make someone an IEE... and Pinocchio, just being someone you don't personally like much doesn't make them an IEE either.
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I am definitely a 7, and most likely an IEE. Stay tuned for further updates.
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Um, I skipped the majority of the thread since it's kinda off topic...
I guess the easiest way for all of us to understand what this really is getting at is to break down the variables we all can agree on. We can agree (using the annotation of NeFi and FiNe that I use, I guess other people caught on) that NeFi is defined by the leading position + defined by the creative position, and the opposite for FiNe.
Looking at the leading functions as starting points, NeFi start out observing the possible states of objects while FiNe start out reflecting on the qualities that make up the relationship between objects. NeFi start by generating multiple ideas while FiNe start with a set of already established data. Both of these are innate, so it isn't a process that either type tries at, it is an apparent view to view the world.
Then the NeFi discerns which possibilities are useful through , applying their established system to eliminate possibilities that aren't applicable. So while NeFi are known for exploring lots of possibilities, they keep their brain from exploding by not keeping on file EVERY possibility, as that's just too much. One can see this behavior in SiTe, who feel overwhelmed by all the possible states they are observing that they feel stuck in a rut because they don't have a natural process of trimming down these possibilities. But after the information goes through the sifter, it stays around until it no longer becomes applicable, and therefore an NeFi can still wield multiple possibilities. FiNe, on the other hand, look for possible states in an object through their already established criteria. If they get an overload, so to speak, it is because they haven't gained enough information yet and therefore can be subjected to too much information. They tend to hand out these observations because it comes from an already finely tuned source, the process is in generating the possibilities for FiNe, not finding out which possibilities are useful like NeFi.
I would take a wing at FeNi and NiFe, but I figured I'd let this go up for scrutiny first to see if I'm completely off base or not.
I can do 75 words per minute, does that make me a good typer?
And who's Dio?
LII-Ne with strong EII tendencies, 6w7-9w1-3w4 so/sp/sx, INxP