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    It's really more of an interest assessment and not so much a personality test but I would think that certain types have greater likelihood to have certain career interests and therefore greater likelihood to have a different Holland type.

    Here's some information on the 6 basic Holland types. I wasn't able to find a good test online for free but you can probably work out your probable Holland type from this.

    In case you're wondering I'm primarily Investigative, and secondary social. I'm very low on realistic and enterprising.


    What correlations to do you see between socionic types and Holland types? Discuss.


    The Holland's Codes Career Model - Career Development from MindTools.com

    Using "Holland's Codes"


    Shaping a career that suits your personality.

    You know when you are in a job you like. You also know when the task you're doing just isn't right for you.
    What lies behind our feelings of work satisfaction or dissatisfaction are our fundamental work interests: These are the things that we enjoy doing, whatever the industry or the job title. The trick to finding career satisfaction can be to identify those core interests and match your job to them.
    For example, if you’re a science person, you may not be happy working in a job that needs quick decisions, or where you need to use your “gut” to guide you. Likewise, artistic people would be driven mad in a profession that has lots of rules and procedures, or which demands a lot of number crunching.
    In a perfect world, we would all choose careers that suit our core interests. However this is not a perfect world: For all sorts of reasons, we can find ourselves in positions where what we’re doing just doesn’t suit our natural interests and abilities. This is where understanding how job and personality fit together can help you change the situation for the better.
    Ability and personality are the two main things contribute towards job satisfaction. You’re likely to find that jobs that suit your ability and personality are much more rewarding than those that don’t. Here we look at your work interests – an important part of your work personality.
    Understanding the Theory: Holland’s Codes

    In the 1970s John Holland developed a popular theory of interest development based around these six personality types:

    1. Realistic (R):
    These are people who like well-ordered activities, or enjoy working with objects, tools, and machines.

    Realistic people:
    • <LI class=bodytext>See themselves as mechanically or athletically talented, but may not be good with people. <LI class=bodytext>Value concrete and tangible things like - money, power, and status.
    • Avoid "social" activities, those that need interaction with other people.
    Common traits:
    • Hard-headed, inflexible, persistent, materialistic, practical, and genuine.
    2. Investigative (I):
    Investigative people like activities that involve creative investigation of the world or nature.
    Investigative people:
    • <LI class=bodytext>See themselves as highly intelligent, but often lack leadership skills. <LI class=bodytext>Value scientific endeavors.
    • Avoid activities that seem mundane, commercial or "enterprising".
    Common traits:
    • Analytical, curious, pessimistic, intellectual, precise, and reserved.
    3. Artistic (A):
    Artistic people like unstructured activities, and enjoy using materials to create art.

    Artistic people:
    • <LI class=bodytext>See themselves as talented artists. <LI class=bodytext>Value aesthetics.
    • Avoid "conventional" occupations or situations.
    Common traits:
    • Idealistic, complicated , introspective, sensitive, impractical and nonconformist.
    4. Social (S):
    Social people enjoy informing, training, developing, curing and enlightening others.

    Social people:
    • <LI class=bodytext>Perceive themselves as helpful, understanding and able to teach others. <LI class=bodytext>Value social activities.
    • Avoid activities demanded by "realistic" occupations and situations.
    Common traits:
    • Generous, patient, emphatic, tactful, persuasive, and cooperative.
    5. Enterprising (E):
    These people enjoy reaching organizational goals or achieving economic gain.

    Enterprising people:
    • <LI class=bodytext>See themselves as aggressive, popular, great leaders and speakers, but may lack scientific ability. <LI class=bodytext>Value political and economic achievement.
    • Avoid activities demanded by "investigative" occupations and situations.
    Common traits:
    • Extroverted, adventurous, optimistic, ambitious, sociable, and exhibitionistic.
    6. Conventional (C):

    Conventional people enjoy manipulating data, record keeping, filing, reproducing materials, and organizing written or numerical data.

    Conventional people
    • <LI class=bodytext>See themselves as having clerical and numerical ability. <LI class=bodytext>Value business and economic achievement.
    • Avoid unstructured or "artistic" activities.
    Common traits:
    • Efficient, practical, conscientious, inflexible, defensive, and methodical.
    The Model

    Holland then arranged these six personality types into a hexagon (see figure 1, below) organized according to people's preference for working with different stimuli at work: people, data, things, and ideas. Holland's theory is that people with different personality types prefer working with different work stimuli, and that the distance between work personalities indicates the degree of difference in interests between them. For example Artistic people are least like Conventional people and most like Social and Investigative people.
    Holland's conclusion was that for any personality type, the career most aligned with that type is most likely to be enjoyable and satisfying. For example, a Realistic person would be best suited for a Technical job and least suited for Social job. Jobs with Conventional or Operational characteristics would be the next best choices.

    The way that this works in practice is that people use a personality test to identify their three top personality types. This gives their Holland's code (for example, ESA). This is then matched against the Holland's codes of people typically found within particular careers.
    How to Use Holland Codes Career Model:

    There are two good ways of using this model – either in helping you choose a career that suits you, or in helping you shape your existing job so that you maximize your fulfillment. To find your ideal career according to this approach, just complete steps i and ii below. To shape your job, use our complete process.

    Using Holland's Codes is a straightforward process, which is made all the easier by some useful online interest evaluation sites.
    Part One: Identify your Work Personality

    Step i: Read through the brief descriptions given above and find the one you most identify with. You may want to take an official Holland Code Assessment. There are many of these, costing different amounts – you can find them by typing "Holland Code Assessment" into Google.

    Try one: Does the assessment say what you thought it would? If they aren't, ask yourself why: Often we choose a personality type that reflects who we want to be, not who we really are. (If so, learn from this!)
    Tip 1:
    Do try the online tests – they're not expensive (for example, one costs US$9.99) and a good one will show you the careers and professions that most suit your code once you've completed it. This can save you a huge amount of painstaking research!

    Step ii: To further explore your "true" work personality, ask yourself, "How would my spouse, family, and friends categorize me?" Show some of your friends and co-workers descriptions of the types and ask them to categorize you. Here again, explore any differences between your assessment of yourself and theirs.
    Part Two: Analyze your job in terms of your interests

    Step iii: Look at your main tasks and responsibilities. Are they aligned with your work personality?

    Step iv: List those responsibilities that are aligned in one column and those that are not in another. Use this to decide whether your job is a good fit for your interests or not.

    Step v: For each of the job roles where your interests are not well matched, work out at least one way of bringing the two sides together. For instance, if you are a "Conventional" person working in an administrative position, many of your roles will be in-line with your interests. However, if you were asked to organize the Christmas party, you might be very uncomfortable about deciding about decorations, entertainment, and so on. These are more Artistic responsibilities, which are directly opposite to your Conventional ways. One strategy to deal with this is to delegate the Artistic tasks and assume responsibility for making sure the tasks get done. You maintain the Administrative duties and get rid of the Artistic ones.
    Part Three: Set Goals to Bring Your Interests and Responsibilities in line

    Step vi: The best way of making sure that something gets done is to set a specific, time limited goal. Identify two or three of the most important problem areas, and set realistic goals to change things.
    Tip 2:
    Remember that this is a model – it's a useful way of looking at things, but it can't possibly capture all of the complexities of the ways that people behave at work. Make sure that you interpret any conclusions with common sense.
    Tip 3:
    Also bear in mind that as you develop in your career you'll need to extend your skills into new areas. In particular, as you take responsibility for people and then move upwards within an organization, you need to develop the "Social" ability to work with other people, as well as other skills that normally go with other personality types (if you're going to be a CEO, there's a lot of "Conventional" work that you just have to do, and do well.)

    Key Points

    Holland’s Career Codes provides a useful framework for exploring your personal interests and the careers most likely to suit you.
    Every occupation requires a particular set of characteristics. By identifying your particular interests you can quickly uncover the parts of your job that give your satisfaction. Likewise, you can identify areas of dissatisfaction and help you plan how to address these. This helps you develop your career in the right direction – one that will be a source of long-term fulfillment.
    If you're thinking about your career, and the way it fits with the future shape of your life, look at our Life Plan Workbook. This helps you think about what you want to achieve with your life, and set the goals that will lead you there.
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    Social (S)
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by warrior-librarian View Post
    In case you're wondering I'm primarily Investigative, and secondary social. I'm very low on realistic and enterprising.
    I've taken the real assessment and scored the same thing! It said I should be a social worker.

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    Data: S
    Ideas: N
    Things: T
    People: F

    Enterprisers are SF types according to this. Interestingly enough ENTjs are known as enterprisers in socionics and are often explicitly given this name.

    Could quadras be linked to the cross instead maybe (just a thought)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat View Post
    Data: S
    Ideas: N
    Things: T
    People: F

    Enterprisers are SF types according to this. Interestingly enough ENTjs are known as enterprisers in socionics and are often explicitly given this name.

    Could quadras be linked to the cross instead maybe (just a thought)?
    Yes, I did VI her ESFp; what you have offered makes a lot of sense, but why Data for S?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    It's opposite to ideas (N). There is no other way to arrange the terms that keeps the internal relation between them intact. These relations are the only reason why linking the two systems is interesting the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat View Post
    It's opposite to ideas (N). There is no other way to arrange the terms that keeps the internal relation between them intact. These relations are the only reason why linking the two systems is interesting the first place.
    Interesting...fascinating...and true.
    Yet so simple.
    But how do you know if someone is reading for ideas or data? How do you know what they want or value?
    I can't keep facts/data in my head (well I can but not as good as my sister or brother), all if not most of the details get pushed into a big picture; I have to try double harder then my ESFj sister to remember rediculous little facts; my motto is just keep the book at hand to reference if you need the fact.

    That's why I just say to people, go here and see or read this and that and you will see.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    Yes, well Ideas is rather a combination of N and p, Data a combination of S and j. Then both People and Things are emphasized with Rationality. One could arrange the types like this:

    There are inconsistencies using the six <-> Socionics types, though.
    Nice. I am IEE and investigative followed by artistic. I'm not so sure about your placement of SLI, but I'll have to read what is meant by "conventional."
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    Personally, I would have put it as
    Ideas<----------------->Things (N vs S)
    People<----------------> Data (F vs T)

    Both S clubs deal more with concrete things than they do with abstract data.

    NTs dealing with Ideas and Data.
    NFs dealing with Ideas and People.
    SFs dealing with Things and People.
    STs dealing with Things and Data.

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    Took this test in school, I got AIR (1. artistic, 2. investigative, 3. realistic). There's a website they gave me that lists seemingly almost every possible career by tri-code and has a bunch of career information with various search routes.

    I think one of the top careers for AIR was architect, in my book, but they listed it as ARI on the website.

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    We took this test then we had to do career planning work in highschool. I scored Enterprising/Social/Artistic. It's still in a way the same.

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    I had to do this back when I had to take the ASVAB and my top three were artistic, social, and investigative.
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    Social: 12
    Artistic: 11
    Enterprising: 10
    Investigative: 7
    Conventional: 4
    Realistic: 1

    So basically, I want to work in a high-achieving field where I have to deal with lots of people to produce a project ultimately creative in nature. So my current career goal of working in the entertainment or advertising industry (if not on the performing side, then probably as some variety of producer; in fact, preferably as some kind of producer, for my "day job") is pretty accurate, according to these people.

    @Pinnochio, nice post.
    Not a rule, just a trend.

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    I was taking several Holland code tests recently, and decided that the "acceptable" ones were:
    http://personality-testing.info/tests/RIASEC/
    http://www.roguecc.edu/Counseling/HollandCodes/test.asp

    (the first has a previous thread here, somewhat (it's the one that produces red bar graphs): http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...-s-Career-Code
    (the second has a previous thread here: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...lity-Type-Test

    (There's probably older threads too that are not indexed for searching!)

    I thought that there were other tests that were crummy in some way: ones that involved interpreting & choosing between images didn't seem satisfactory, in my view (in my case, they overestimated Artistic, generally: and that seems to be a criticism that the "official" Holland people have of unofficial tests.

    Based on tests and using this document to weigh up the six codes: http://www.wiu.edu/advising/docs/Holland_Code.pdf
    I decided I am IC (and perhaps in full, I am ICSARE
    My self-perception is that I have significant strong inclination for I and C, and a significant weak inclination for R and E.

    My observation of the designation of Holland codes to professions on O*Net (which are different at times to the one in the above PDF, although I didn't link the PDF for the profession codes) is that anything involving "E" (Enterprising) is a no-no (certainly in the first two positions), and everything with "R" (Realistic) first possibly also. However, I have noticed (as at least one other person commented here), that there is a lot of nuance in each code, at least as we might understand in Socionics terms. Physicists for example have the Holland code IR.

    With the "S" (Social) code, it is clear that it covers high-intensity interactions (whether under pressure in a busy environment, or emotionally involving with a more relaxed environment), and low-intensity interactions (working as part of a familiar team, or passing the time of day with customers), and to a great extent, professions where you must actively "perform".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subteigh View Post
    I was taking several Holland code tests recently, and decided that the "acceptable" ones were:
    http://personality-testing.info/tests/RIASEC/
    http://www.roguecc.edu/Counseling/HollandCodes/test.asp

    (the first has a previous thread here, somewhat (it's the one that produces red bar graphs): http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...-s-Career-Code
    (the second has a previous thread here: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...lity-Type-Test

    (There's probably older threads too that are not indexed for searching!)

    I thought that there were other tests that were crummy in some way: ones that involved interpreting & choosing between images didn't seem satisfactory, in my view (in my case, they overestimated Artistic, generally: and that seems to be a criticism that the "official" Holland people have of unofficial tests.

    Based on tests and using this document to weigh up the six codes: http://www.wiu.edu/advising/docs/Holland_Code.pdf
    I decided I am IC (and perhaps in full, I am ICSARE
    My self-perception is that I have significant strong inclination for I and C, and a significant weak inclination for R and E.

    My observation of the designation of Holland codes to professions on O*Net (which are different at times to the one in the above PDF, although I didn't link the PDF for the profession codes) is that anything involving "E" (Enterprising) is a no-no (certainly in the first two positions), and everything with "R" (Realistic) first possibly also. However, I have noticed (as at least one other person commented here), that there is a lot of nuance in each code, at least as we might understand in Socionics terms. Physicists for example have the Holland code IR.

    With the "S" (Social) code, it is clear that it covers high-intensity interactions (whether under pressure in a busy environment, or emotionally involving with a more relaxed environment), and low-intensity interactions (working as part of a familiar team, or passing the time of day with customers), and to a great extent, professions where you must actively "perform".

    If only your S and C were switched. Then your type would be I SCARE.
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    artistic-social. i literally get the same results on every typology test lol it's just labeled and worded differently.

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