What types are best at predicting how a person will act? What types hate being predicted?
What types are best at predicting how a person will act? What types hate being predicted?
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
I don't really mind being predicted, for what's worth.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
The action itself is not all that type related. It would have to do with the manner in which it is expressed. I dislike being predicted inaccurately and/or incompletely, based on a flawed understanding of a persona that project. But I like being predicted accurately rather a lot. I think Ni predictions would normally take the form of knowing what's going to happen but not saying anything unless it's crucial to intervene, and even then, I would normally say it after it happened, like, "saw that coming," moreso than "okay, next you're going to do x." Still, overall, the capacity to predict others' behavior well is related to Ni, and especially Ni blocked with Fe (although gammas can be quite good people predictors too, just in different ways).
I think betas are annoyed by delta NF predicting in the same way that I'm annoyed by Demonstrative Se. What brilliand said is exactly right. Deltas will issue a prediction, perhaps, but it will be grounded in an idea about "who you are" and the expression will still have tinges of that grounding, and as such will be annoying/frustrating to Se/Ni valuers, especially betas. It's kind of like leaking Ni, like they just talk about what's going to happen as a joke almost rather than being very selective and mentioning it when it's important, applying it selectively.
Ni-polrs are annoyed at what they consider to be "unfounded assumptions" about how they're going to behave. Fi and Ne superegos are annoyed at assumptions about who they are unchangingly, and as a result what they're going to do. Maybe.
Not a rule, just a trend.
IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.
Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music...
I am grateful for the mystery of the soul, because without it, there could be no contemplation, except of the mysteries of divinity, which are far more dangerous to get wrong.
I want someone to predict when I will want dinner.
And not when I'm disappear for a hour or 2 that I was cheating on them. Or power page me 50 times out of some neurotic-ism.
Wrong predictions are very annoying if I'm expected to pay any attention to them...
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
Some people are easier to predict than others.
I *think* i'm good at predicting peoples behaviours, however I don't really particularly bother doing much with the information.
I've known some Se valuers who use the information to push the persons buttons to get the expected rise.
I suppose I could say I can see these things but typically don't act on them because I have strong but unvalued Se, but then I hate trying to tie everything into socionics
I do.
Seconded.
My relative was so convinced I wouldn't manage to solve a business problem today, that she went ahead and asked me what I'm gonna do about it next, as if it was 100% clear to her that I won't succeed in solving it to my satisfaction. But it turned out otherwise, and I did manage to solve the issue with a couple of additional efforts on my part. Her reasoning (and advice based off of it) annoyed the crap out of me because it was very irrational, and seemed like some sort of paranoia related to time and predicting how things will turn out in advance. Like, coming up with half-baked predictions based on scarce data and convincing yourself (and others) to believe in them. But thank god I'm not like that and never let any baseless "predictions" influence my actions. I don't go about predicting (neither positive nor negative) outcomes, but just do my best to make things work, step by step, following the process and taking optimal action as I go, hoping things will turn out for the best. And even if they sometimes don't, I know I've given my best. That is, if I cared to solve the problem, or reach some goal, or defend my/someone's rights, or whatever...
Last edited by Park; 04-12-2010 at 08:50 PM.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
I've read somewhere that ISTps are the worst type when it comes to predicting things. (even worse than ESFjs )
Well in my case it's not feeling the need to predict things in the first place, most of the time. The things that I actually can and do predict are things that I have all the necessary background information about, and sufficient past experience I can rely on. But I merely use these as orientation signs and to prevent any recurring mistakes.
Last edited by Park; 04-12-2010 at 09:13 PM.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
Removed at User Request
I'm just talking about short-term prediction - like someone saying "ah I knew you were going to say that". Kinda annoys me, because after awhile.. what's the point of saying anything if the person knows what I'm going to say? Surely life must be a mundane affair for them! I'm not very good at predicting people. Sometimes I try to prepare myself for a person's reaction though - going through all the possible reactions in my head.. but it usually turns out to be the one I missed. lol So it's easier to just take things as they come!
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
I like predicting what Polikujm's next type will be......
LII-Ne with strong EII tendencies, 6w7-9w1-3w4 so/sp/sx, INxP