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    This might sound cliche and fake to some people, but for me the thing that by and far does it is God and his love. It's a kind of... underpinning security, something I can always go back to, rely on, and get meaning from. So I'll pray, sometimes I'll read my Bible (since that's one verbal way I can hear from him), sometimes I'll just think about things. Other things that I can do include checking to see if I'm physically healthy (sometimes chemicals and their imbalances can do weird things), get hugs from people I love (I heard once that people need a certain number of hugs a day, and I think we all don't get near that quota), play/cuddle with an animal (furry ones are generally best for this), do something nice for someone. Sometimes distractions help, but if it's a deeper thing that only postpones and even builds the feelings up, so that might not always be the best idea.

    Generally, for me, the emptiness feeling is temporary. Which it seems, from what I've observed of lots of other people, might be a little unusual. It seems to come on me most often after I've spent some time ignoring God, though I think circumstances and hormonal changes can play a part, too.

    I do want to say I'm not entirely sure there's a perfect connection between being close to God and not experiencing emptiness. I mean, I know of quite a few people of great faith who also chronically suffered from depression, for example. So saying, "You need to know God and your problems will be fixed", is hardly the answer I'd give. All I can really offer are my own experiences.
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    I don't have a feeling of emptiness and I'm an atheist You give meaning to everything around you, not anything/anyone else. So if you want to give yourself importance, or find a goal that you can realistically attain, it'll be of your own volition. You are making yourself feel empty, not the world or anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by look.to.the.sky View Post
    I don't have a feeling of emptiness and I'm an atheist You give meaning to everything around you, not anything/anyone else. So if you want to give yourself importance, or find a goal that you can realistically attain, it'll be of your own volition. You are making yourself feel empty, not the world or anything else.
    I wasn't going for spiritual necessarily with this thread. Also, I don't agree with that last sentence, to me it goes against the concept of being stimulated by the senses. Feeling involves external stimuli. How can I make myself feel empty? or why would I even want to do such a thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo View Post
    I wasn't going for spiritual necessarily with this thread. Also, I don't agree with that last sentence, to me it goes against the concept of being stimulated by the senses. Feeling involves external stimuli. How can I make myself feel empty? or why would I even want to do such a thing?
    It's because you assign the value of your external stimuli, and the more or less you value something, in relativity, it will effect you. If you don't value the things you're capable of achieving, then of course you're going to feel crappy. So you either change things to attain the things that have meaning to you, or, you reassign the value of the things you can achieve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by look.to.the.sky View Post
    It's because you assign the value of your external stimuli, and the more or less you value something, in relativity, it will effect you. If you don't value the things you're capable of achieving, then of course you're going to feel crappy. So you either change things to attain the things that have meaning to you, or, you reassign the value of the things you can achieve.
    I think there is some truth to what LTTS is saying. A lot of your own feeling bad about things is simply that... whatever your mindset is, it isn't producing a feeling of positivity. So things need to change.

    I'm reminded a little bit of "Habit 1: Be Proactive..."

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    LOVE is how you fill yourself and others. Without love, compassion, care, kindness, sympathy, friendship, oneness, connecting to the very air around you there is emptiness everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    This might sound cliche and fake to some people, but for me the thing that by and far does it is God and his love. It's a kind of... underpinning security, something I can always go back to, rely on, and get meaning from. So I'll pray, sometimes I'll read my Bible (since that's one verbal way I can hear from him), sometimes I'll just think about things.
    Since I've developed my spiritual self more and gotten to know God better and such things... I've noticed that my ability to recover from "bad situations" and "bad feelings" has gotten a lot better. Sure bad times still happen, but I feel much more grounded now in my life.

    Other things that I can do include checking to see if I'm physically healthy (sometimes chemicals and their imbalances can do weird things), get hugs from people I love (I heard once that people need a certain number of hugs a day, and I think we all don't get near that quota), play/cuddle with an animal (furry ones are generally best for this), do something nice for someone. Sometimes distractions help, but if it's a deeper thing that only postpones and even builds the feelings up, so that might not always be the best idea.
    Esp the hugs part.


    Also for myself, I have realized that I need to do stuff. I seriously become depressed if I don't do stuff and I'm not involved. My current signature features a quote from Holmes about mental stagnation, and I relate to that, but also physical stagnation - doing things that are productive are good, but also actually physically getting up and doing things. Sometimes when I'm not feeling well and I have to 'sit still' for a while or can't move much, part of the problem is that I'm not moving around and being my usual involved, interactive self. I think that other people are the same way to, to varying degrees. But definitely for me, I have a strong craving for involvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    This might sound cliche and fake to some people, but for me the thing that by and far does it is God and his love. It's a kind of... underpinning security, something I can always go back to, rely on, and get meaning from. So I'll pray, sometimes I'll read my Bible (since that's one verbal way I can hear from him), sometimes I'll just think about things. Other things that I can do include checking to see if I'm physically healthy (sometimes chemicals and their imbalances can do weird things),
    My EII sister does that a lot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    get hugs from people I love (I heard once that people need a certain number of hugs a day, and I think we all don't get near that quota), play/cuddle with an animal (furry ones are generally best for this), do something nice for someone. Sometimes distractions help, but if it's a deeper thing that only postpones and even builds the feelings up, so that might not always be the best idea.
    Ditto to that! hugs and furry animals. Or better yet, hugging furry animals!
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