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    Hi, I'm new.

    I've been following this forum for a while and wanted to join. I'll write something about myself.

    2 years ago I dicovered MBTI
    1 year ago I discovered Socionics
    Then I discovered DarkAngelFireWolf69's subtypes

    My self typing is SEI, I think my subtype is N (Ti, Fi) in the DCNH system.

    My ultimate goal is to forget about psychology. Or... I dont know. As some people on this forum has stated in the past: socionics can fuck up your mind. I see my interest in personality typology as a temporary substitute for a healthy identity (I'm just referring to myself here, really).

    I sometimes get the feeling that socionics is something that I shouldnt know. That certain things are best to remain hidden.

    But that doesnt mean that it isnt amazing. I mean, I could never imagine that this kind of information about people and relationships actually existed! Now things that happened in the past, feelings I've had in relationships or when meeting people suddenly make sense.

    I usually try to type people I meet. In a kind of impressionistic way, making a visual synthesis of all people I've typed previously and comparing it. I dont think of this explicitly when I'm doing it but that's how I would describe the process from a distance. But of course other things also: facts, career, opinions, behaviour etc. It can take a long time for me to type someone accurately. But - sometimes it is fast.

    I sometimes feel like the only thing I'm REALLY good at is being nice and pleasant.

    People can see me as nice, humble, interesting, reliable and smart. I'm quite good at giving a good impression.

    But I also struggle to get attention. I can be invisible. Then I try to force connection with someone, but it doesnt work.

    I can relate to what Maritsa33 wrote in one post in connection with S/N: "There are types who already have philosophy in their minds and types who need to take philosophy classes to get philosophy."

    I'm one of those who need to take philosophy classes, I've done that. (that was a long time ago). At some point when I started typing myself in MBTI I wanted to see myself as intuitive. But I'm not, not in socionics either.

    If I'm interested in something I want to gather as much facts about it as possible before I feel that I can understand it. But I can also be quite impressionistic about things.

    My best friend since childhood is my activator (LII), I also have some dual friends (ILE), but they are not as close, but very easy to be with. I have one close SEI friend. I have never experienced duality in a romantic relationship, but I've been on a couple of dates whith a dual and it was amazing. It felt like... nothing! Lately I've been in a relationship with an EII (benefactor).

    I hope this introduction didnt get too long. I have to end this in a SEI manner with some cool music because all these words are starting to annoy me very much (and this music is really worth listening to). Here it is and nice to meet you! And dont be too harsh, pleeeeeeease!


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    Welcome to the16types, supervisee. You seem to already have a good idea of what's going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowisthetime View Post
    My ultimate goal is to forget about psychology.
    haha yes.. I know what you mean!

    Anyway, hi! :c)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubicon View Post
    haha yes.. I know what you mean!

    Anyway, hi! :c)
    Hi! Feels good someone shares my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowisthetime View Post
    Hi! Feels good someone shares my experience.
    Would you please provide a VI photo I have a very strong feeling of ENTp and for the last couple of days I have been having these strong feelings; please post a picture...thank you...I am asking this because I can not view videos on my work computer.

    Your emphasis on new things already tips the hat for me.
    Your dual seeking is SEI and you may think that you are that type, but I highly doubt that. Us N's like to think of ourselves as S and S types also do the same; it's a matter of serve or suit in type; and I as an EII seek my dual ESTj...and being around one for a long time also made me almost one with her....a story for another time. Dual pairs, if they have not been exposed to duality, have this odd tendency to corpulate certain patterns of their dual for themselves to overcome certain psychological need for their dual and we do this when we are not in a dual relationship.

    Have you read Einstein's Dreams? What are you reading now? Do you like hands on creative things like arts and crafts?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Would you please provide a VI photo I have a very strong feeling of ENTp and for the last couple of days I have been having these strong feelings; please post a picture...thank you...I am asking this because I can not view videos on my work computer.

    Your emphasis on new things already tips the hat for me.
    Hi Maritsa. I will give you pictures later, maybe. I can understand that you get the feeling of ENTp based on my post. But I can assure you, I am not ENTp. My post doesnt reflect my true self. I am not myself on the internet. I took time writing it. You know, revising and having time to think. These words I write are just a tiny bit of who I am.

    I have spent many years in an N environment, and also many N friends. I express a lot of wanna-be-N, I know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowisthetime View Post
    Hi Maritsa. I will give you pictures later, maybe. I can understand that you get the feeling of ENTp based on my post. But I can assure you, I am not ENTp. My post doesnt reflect my true self. I am not myself on the internet. I took time writing it. You know, revising and having time to think. These words I write are just a tiny bit of who I am.

    I have spent many years in an N environment, and also many N friends. I express a lot of wanna-be-N, I know that.
    Hello there,
    I am sorry, dear, I don't know the situations you were in and without having known the people with whom you interacted with, I can't say that you were really in an N environment, but one thing's for sure, us N's are nothing like what you or others have perceived us to be previously. Most of us are extremely kind and generous. If you VI, then I would know for sure as to what type you really are and be able to take it from there.
    What is your normal self like?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Have you read Einstein's Dreams? What are you reading now? Do you like hands on creative things like arts and crafts?
    I have read Einsteins Dreams (or half of it). I did not like it. Boring. I dont like reading intellectual stuff. I like hands on tings, makes me feel alive. But most of all I like having fun, although my introverted life style prevents me from getting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowisthetime View Post
    I have read Einsteins Dreams (or half of it). I did not like it. Boring. I dont like reading intellectual stuff. I like hands on tings, makes me feel alive. But most of all I like having fun, although my introverted life style prevents me from getting it.
    Good, I'm glad you found it borring, just one more proof that you not SEI. What sort of books then do you like to read?

    You are 20 steps closer now to ENTp my dear with this statement about yourself that you just made
    "People can see me as nice, humble, interesting, reliable and smart. I'm quite good at giving a good impression.

    But I also struggle to get attention. I can be invisible. Then I try to force connection with someone, but it doesnt work."

    That philosophy statement that I made ("I can relate to what Maritsa33 wrote in one post in connection with S/N: "There are types who already have philosophy in their minds and types who need to take philosophy classes to get philosophy."'), was in thought of ENTp...I was hopeing that if Rasputin was ENTp he would relate and say that he related, but he ended up being ESTj after all and now here you are.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Us N's like to think of ourselves as S and S types also do the same; it's a matter of serve or suit in type; and I as an EII seek my dual ESTj...and being around one for a long time also made me almost one with her....a story for another time. Dual pairs, if they have not been exposed to duality, have this odd tendency to corpulate certain patterns of their dual for themselves to overcome certain psychological need for their dual and we do this when we are not in a dual relationship.
    I can relate to this very much but the other way around. I thought of myself as an "N", before I discovered MBTI and Socionics.

    Discovering that I was S was actually a shock for me 2 years back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowisthetime View Post
    I can relate to this very much but the other way around. I thought of myself as an "N", before I discovered MBTI and Socionics.

    Discovering that I was S was actually a shock for me 2 years back.
    You seem to be a very healthy SEI and I am so happy that you know yourself so well...many people who I VI as SEI can't even understand why they are that type; it confuses me, but it seems that because you've done a lot of reading that you know yourself very well, I am very happy to hear that.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    as an EII seek my dual ESTj...and being around one for a long time also made me almost one with her....a story for another time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowisthetime View Post

    My ultimate goal is to forget about psychology. Or... I dont know. As some people on this forum has stated in the past: socionics can fuck up your mind. I see my interest in personality typology as a temporary substitute for a healthy identity (I'm just referring to myself here, really).

    I sometimes get the feeling that socionics is something that I shouldnt know. That certain things are best to remain hidden.
    Agreed. ALthough once you're into it it's really hard to stop being curious about personality typings and such. I'm trying to ween myself off of Socionics, but it's not working.
    *insert witty comment here*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabelie View Post
    Agreed. ALthough once you're into it it's really hard to stop being curious about personality typings and such. I'm trying to ween myself off of Socionics, but it's not working.
    Maybe not to forget about it totally, but make socionics less significant in ones life. For me it's now somewhere between an interest and a drug, actually more of a drug.

    It doesnt have to be forced. It's enough to stop feeding ones mind with socionics, stop reading and stop logging in to this forum. Then find other more meaningful activities, and then let time take care of the rest.

    And btw. How much is about socionics and how much about pure internet addiction?

    Ugh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowisthetime View Post
    Maybe not to forget about it totally, but make socionics less significant in ones life. For me it's now somewhere between an interest and a drug, actually more of a drug.

    It doesnt have to be forced. It's enough to stop feeding ones mind with socionics, stop reading and stop logging in to this forum. Then find other more meaningful activities, and then let time take care of the rest.

    And btw. How much is about socionics and how much about pure internet addiction?

    Ugh!
    Ha It's part of my internet routine. CHeck the mail, check face book, check the 16 types. :\ Its hard to get away from since a few of my good friends talk about Socionics non stop. It's nice to know what they're talking about, but I almost have to separate myself from it. Like have a separate perspective when dealing with it, than for normal day life. I'm not sure if I can explain it any better than that. :\ Evs. We'll see what happens.
    *insert witty comment here*

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