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    Quote Originally Posted by jewels View Post
    When you are really upset, do ISTps do anything to help? Or do they just sit there blankly?

    Are they sympathetic/empathetic to others being sad, upset, etc? Or do they just ignore that of feel annoyed by it?

    I've noticed w/ my bf on the phone I can't tell from his tone/words at all if he cares if I'm upset (like if I'm crying), so I will have to ask if he cares and he'll only say something like "yup." (which doesn't really tell me very much). Or something like "Well, I didn't hang up (so must care)." (which isn't exactly reassuring).
    Who knows what's going on inside their head when an emotional situation is in front of them... I try to avoid emotional situations, especially if I find them unnecessary. I bet most are the same way, but they probably would not be comfortable engaging in emotional situations. I really doubt that it's because of being annoyed, it's more like being uncomfortable and not confident in their abilities to handle the situation as they think it's supposed to be handled.

    Sounds like your bf has the Fe-polr colored glasses on . When we don't remove those polr glasses we can't see things with clarity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo View Post
    Who knows what's going on inside their head when an emotional situation is in front of them... I try to avoid emotional situations, especially if I find them unnecessary. I bet most are the same way, but they probably would not be comfortable engaging in emotional situations. I really doubt that it's because of being annoyed, it's more like being uncomfortable and not confident in their abilities to handle the situation as they think it's supposed to be handled.

    Sounds like your bf has the Fe-polr colored glasses on . When we don't remove those polr glasses we can't see things with clarity.
    NF's and most F's think that emotions are necessary, how can you have typed yourself EII when you don't value emotions? That doesn't make any sense.

    If you're not comfortable engaging in emotional situations then you are a T type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    NF's and most F's think that emotions are necessary, how can you have typed yourself EII when you don't value emotions? That doesn't make any sense.

    If you're not comfortable engaging in emotional situations then you are a T type.
    Emotions are very necessary, and I value them. However, situations where people are crying hysterically and there is drama involved, I try to stay away as best I can. It affects my inner peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo View Post
    Emotions are very necessary, and I value them. However, situations where people are crying hysterically and there is drama involved, I try to stay away as best I can. It affects my inner peace.
    EII reach out to help people in that situation, to negotiate them to calm down by comforting words and sympathy; it doesn't disturb our inner peace. To comfort is what we are made for. That disruption is chacteristing of T type. T types prefer even emotions or comedy. Actually, both T and F can cry hysterically, depending upon the situation at hand, but F types are likely to submit to a person with strong emotions because they "feel" bad and feel the emotions of the person and sympathize and reach to console.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    I'm emphatic when I wanna be.
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    I guess I am empathetic based on context.

    Sometimes people are their own worst enemy, and I find it difficult to lend an ear instead of a more-justified critical assessment. This tendency has been mellowing with age - people are going to do what they want regardless. To paraphrase one of the greats:

    "Even if you burst with indignation, still they will carry on."

    I'm not all rough edges, however - my last girlfriend coined me, "tenderheart bear".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    EII reach out to help people in that situation, to negotiate them to calm down by comforting words and sympathy; it doesn't disturb our inner peace. To comfort is what we are made for. That disruption is chacteristing of T type. T types prefer even emotions or comedy. Actually, both T and F can cry hysterically, depending upon the situation at hand, but F types are likely to submit to a person with strong emotions because they "feel" bad and feel the emotions of the person and sympathize and reach to console.

    This is a superficial understanding and based more on MBTI than Socionics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariella View Post
    This is a superficial understanding and based more on MBTI than Socionics.
    I agree, and it sounds more like Fe than Fi, no? I know I internalize people's sadness or anger or happiness for that matter, quite a bit. If you're just expressing comfort without really feeling what the other person is feeling, that's Fe. and it makes sense because Maritsa is IEI.
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    I'm emphatic when I wanna be.
    I hope, you don`t mind my question, LokiVanguard.
    Does that mean you never really empathize with someone?
    Or did I misunderstand?


    I agree, and it sounds more like Fe than Fi, no? I know I internalize people's sadness or anger or happiness for that matter, quite a bit. If you're just expressing comfort without really feeling what the other person is feeling, that's Fe. and it makes sense because Maritsa is IEI.
    I didn`t know empathy is linked to Fi... Why is that?

    And shouldn`t then IEI also be able to empathize with someone very well? Aren`t 7th and 8th function strong ones? I don`t think I`m more able to empathize than ESEs or IEIs I know... And to be honest -- I thought IEIs are more empathic than EIIs... (or at least than I am). How do you think the difference between Fi ego and Fi 8th/7th function manifests? Do you have some real life experiences you want to tell?

    I always thought IEIs are as able to empathize as EIIs but in addition they try to influence the situation...

    PS: What I wrote has no relation to the sentence about Maritsas type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariella View Post
    This is a superficial understanding and based more on MBTI than Socionics.
    No it's not; because it is me.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    No it's not; because it is me.
    and so it shouldn't even exist in the first place.

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