SEEs-ESFps have butterfly eyes

[crazedrat]

Well.. still, it is not fully agreed upon we should write off phrenology altogether. It may have a lesser correlation, but I am not willing to say there is zero correlation. There is also the problem of getting a fully relaxed photograph. That is not really happening. More like, a relatively relaxed photograph. It's really not the same as saying all Ips are fatasses, because fatness is not entirely an inborn trait. I actually think it's more developed then it is inborn. We also haven't actually put forward evidence to suggest Ips are fatasses, where in this case she has some pictures which to her suggest a correlation, and I presume she doesn't know any ESFps who lack the trait she's examining. But if a person compiled a list of all the Ips in their lives and it turned out there was a high probability of them being fat, and then I saw a similar trend in the Ips I encountered, I would be completely comfortable in saying "Ips are more likely to be fat". And you could call that phrenology if you wanted.

[implied]

There is also no actual observed evidence to suggest Ips are fatasses, where in this case she has some pictures which to her suggest a correlation, and I presume she doesn't know any ESFps who lack the trait she's examining.

well hold on, let me post some photos of fat IPs. there's your evidence. you should also assume that all the IPs i know are fat therefore all of them are fat.

[crazedrat]

My experience would have to match your experience. And I would need enough experience to be confident of drawing a trend from it. Only at that point would I agree with you. And my agreement would not be expressed as a blanket statement "All Ips are fat", it would instead be "Most Ips are fat". Infact, any time I have a wide range of experience with a thing I am comfortable in entertaining trends.

[implied]

My experience would have to match your experience. Only at that point would I agree with you

oh wait, and then you'd have to also assume that i typed all of those people correctly.

[crazedrat]

No, I wouldn't. All I would have to do is listen to your observation, look at the ESFps in my life, see whether your observation held true there, and then decide whether it was a prominent enough sample to support a general trend.

[implied]

No, I wouldn't. All I would have to do is listen to your observation, look at the ESFps in my life, see whether your observation held true there, and then decide whether it was a prominent enough sample to support a general trend.

cool, well you should help out vixendogfox then.

[crazedrat]

why do you say that?

[Absurd]

yeah it seems incredibly potentially racist, to be honest.

why wouldn't it be? it's creepy. anyhow, i thought it was fairly agreed-upon by non-idiots that typing people by physical static features was completely retarded & should be somewhere back in the 1800's in that pile of shitty ideas like phrenology.

Nicely done. And to think I've been waiting for this so long. Glad to see that someone with authority(?) mentioned it.

[Gilly]

What the fuck are butterfly eyes?

[717495]

dang.

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[Jarno]

Just a dumb way of describing a certain look to the eye. Right now it seems like a slanted down tear duct and that can be sometimes coupled with a convex outer part of the eye. Nothing to do with the top part of the eye, the top lid, or the lashes. Anyway, I could be wrong. Just observing!

I think I read somewhere on Ganin's site that SEE have a sorrow look. I've seen that a couple of times too. It's because of the way their eyebrows are pointed slightly downwards. It's a subtle, so you don't see it by analyzing, but you do see it by noticing what impression you get from their look.

[Beautiful sky]

I think I read somewhere on Ganin's site that SEE have a sorrow look. I've seen that a couple of times too. It's because of the way their eyebrows are pointed slightly downwards. It's a subtle, so you don't see it by analyzing, but you do see it by noticing what impression you get from their look.

A lot of Ganin's typings are incorrect, but some of them do and some their iris's are half way covered.