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    Fe-egos, do you like to whine? That is, if you're feeling unhappy about something, even if it's just a minor annoyance, does it make you feel better to talk about it? I find that saying something out loud almost always makes me feel better. Like, at this very moment, I am castigating myself verbally for doing a really dreadful job on a paper I had to turn in today (well, not at this very moment, 'cause now I'm posting). But this makes me feel a lot better. Could also be related to Ni, insofar as I can almost anticipate the same complaints coming from other people, and it isn't as bad if I just say them to myself...? Eventually it's just sort of a stream-of-words, possibly meaningless, and vaguely related to the topic of irritation.

    Anyway, Fe and whining: go. Bonus points for information about how various other types react to said whining. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverchris9 View Post
    Fe-egos, do you like to whine? That is, if you're feeling unhappy about something, even if it's just a minor annoyance, does it make you feel better to talk about it? I find that saying something out loud almost always makes me feel better....
    Fe-ESFjs do that a lot. Like they are seeking for Ti or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuturututu View Post
    Fe-ESFjs do that a lot. Like they are seeking for Ti or something.
    Huh, that's interesting. How do you see it as Ti-seeking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverchris9 View Post
    Huh, that's interesting. How do you see it as Ti-seeking?

    This is very characteristic of Fe-ESFjs. The bolded part is something I'd especially call Ti-seeking.
    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    ... First, she will have the inclination to tell you, in sequence, the daily events of her day, mostly dealing with her interactions with other people. Sometimes she is going to make a point and want your opinion; but to reach that point, she needs to go, sequentially, through all the events that led to it, and you wonder if that was necessary. Other times she’ll just relate the events of her day without wanting to make any specific points, apparently expecting you to help her make sense of them.
    Btw, objectively speaking, IJ-Ti hardly ever makes sense. It's very subjective and prone to discard facts and common sense opinions provided by the other people but apparently ESFjs like it. It's probably IXTjs spewing their redicolous opinions with utter and by all means unwarranted confidence what calms Fe-dominants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuturututu View Post
    Btw, objectively speaking, IJ-Ti hardly ever makes sense. It's very subjective and prone to discard facts and common sense opinions provided by the other people but apparently ESFjs like it.
    IJ-Ti hardly ever makes sense? Surely it's not that bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zed View Post
    IJ-Ti hardly ever makes sense? Surely it's not that bad?
    Of course it's not. I'm stereotyping in order to make a point. It's what stereotyping is all about.

    The tendency exists, in IXTj Ti subtypes, and in some cases it really can be that bad. My uncle comes to mind.

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    My SEI brother is my only family member who's an Fe Ego. He's also the only one who whines. It is very agitating. I'd rather hear complaining or crying than whining.

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    Like, at this very moment, I am castigating myself verbally for doing a really dreadful job on a paper I had to turn in today
    Interesting, how do I go about castigating myself? hehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morcheeba View Post
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    Interesting, how do I go about castigating myself? hehe
    Like, at this very moment, I am castigating myself verbally for doing a really dreadful job on a paper...
    Now, if that's not what you had in mind, I suppose I could think of a few suggestions, but I'm not really certain of the procedure... and really I think it's better when you find someone else to assist in the process. Huh, what?
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    whine.. more like relentlessly complain. I like to make people feel as negatively as I do. But I only do that if I think they are involved or responsible somehow.

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    The sonal aspect of whining is related or wholly Fe. It also implies they should know when,where, how much to use that aspect since they are more focused on it.
    I assume heavy use of Fe will annoy Fi/Te types for the usage of it above their Fi/Te values.
    Wouldn't any supervisee seem whiny or pathetic to the SUPERvisorrr?
    Alpha and Beta will grate on each other for the context(Si/Ne vs Ni/Se) of the Fe not the overall presence. Whereas Te types would annoy Fe/Ti with heavy Te facts (and Si/Ne vs Se/Ni).

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