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    Default Borderline Personality Disorder and Multiple Personality Disorder

    Listed in the DSM criteria for Borderline PD is
    'a weak and highly variable self concept'

    ....could this be type instability?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xixi View Post
    Listed in the DSM criteria for Borderline PD is
    'a weak and highly variable self concept'

    ....could this be type instability?
    If I may guess I would say rather an unhealthy type of ESFJ / ESFP / ENFP

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    I wouldn't guess that Borderline is type related. No type really stands out to me as one that literally loves you and thinks you are the best one day and hates you and thinks you have never done anything right the next for little to no reason.

    Multiple Personality Disorder would be even farther from being type related. It is debated about whether it is even a true disorder or induced by public awareness and psychologists.
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    I think E7 at really unhealthy levels is said to behave this way. I can see how some personality disorders arise from Etype, but probably not so much from Stype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardia View Post
    I wouldn't guess that Borderline is type related. No type really stands out to me as one that literally loves you and thinks you are the best one day and hates you and thinks you have never done anything right the next for little to no reason.

    Multiple Personality Disorder would be even farther from being type related. It is debated about whether it is even a true disorder or induced by public awareness and psychologists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post
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    Yeah, definitely. I've even had personal experience with this. The girl was ESI but I don't think socionics type had anything to do with it.
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    @ maritsa

    I don't see what so hard to accept.

    some types are more common or even exclusively in certain pd's.

    like some types are more common to become a boxer or math professor.

    etc. The link should be obvious.

    oh and about the 1000 SEE. that was just a guess as I said, the only proof/evidence I have is about ILI and LII. You can have that if you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardia View Post
    Multiple Personality Disorder would be even farther from being type related. It is debated about whether it is even a true disorder or induced by public awareness and psychologists.
    In a psych tute once, the lecturer (a clin psych) told us about one of her patients who had multiple pd - this girl had enrolments in two separate universities, and wasn't aware of it.

    also saw a doco once on multiple pd in which the patient would abruptly switch into younger versions of herself for unpredictable periods - sometimes just a few minutes, sometimes days on end.

    how could public awareness and psychologists 'induce' that kind of behaviour?? usually these behaviours are the reason for the patient going to see the psych (i.e. they occur before the patient has even met a psych).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardia View Post
    I wouldn't guess that Borderline is type related.
    it's a fact that some personality disorders are related to types. So I think the probability that it is type related is higher then that it's not.

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    Multiple Personality Disorder would be even farther from being type related. It is debated about whether it is even a true disorder or induced by public awareness and psychologists.
    You should read "Switching Time" - it's a book about a lady with 17 personalities created over years of horrific abuse by her father and his friends.

    There's no way that book is made up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiny_dancer View Post
    You should read "Switching Time" - it's a book about a lady with 17 personalities created over years of horrific abuse by her father and his friends.

    There's no way that book is made up.
    true. But some psychologists doubt whether it are multiple personalities, or that something else is going on in that mind.

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    Borderline personality disorder is very interesting In my opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by tiny_dancer View Post
    You should read "Switching Time" - it's a book about a lady with 17 personalities created over years of horrific abuse by her father and his friends.

    There's no way that book is made up.
    I don't know if it exists or not, through I have heard a psychartist told me once that he never have a Multiple personality disorder patients.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xixi View Post
    In a psych tute once, the lecturer (a clin psych) told us about one of her patients who had multiple pd - this girl had enrolments in two separate universities, and wasn't aware of it.

    also saw a doco once on multiple pd in which the patient would abruptly switch into younger versions of herself for unpredictable periods - sometimes just a few minutes, sometimes days on end.

    how could public awareness and psychologists 'induce' that kind of behaviour?? usually these behaviours are the reason for the patient going to see the psych (i.e. they occur before the patient has even met a psych).
    Quote Originally Posted by tiny_dancer View Post
    You should read "Switching Time" - it's a book about a lady with 17 personalities created over years of horrific abuse by her father and his friends.

    There's no way that book is made up.
    To both of you... I'm not saying it doesn't exist but there is serious debate about whether it is indeed other personalities and how the disorder emerges. Some believe that these people get some sort of social benefit from the symptomology and so it grows (such as in conversion disorder) or that psychologists can prompt patients by putting them under hypnosis and asking things like "is there another personality inside you?".

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    it's a fact that some personality disorders are related to types. So I think the probability that it is type related is higher then that it's not.
    Says who? How can you confirm it as fact?

    In this thread Scarlett talks about the correlations between big five traits and some mood disorders, but the big five traits don't necessarily correlate over to socionics types.
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