yeah i can admit to maybe just disliking eminem's rap and being wrong about his credibility/skill. but i think it's ridic that the real basis of his image is, 'no one understands me, i'm so troubled,' and this in turn recruits a whole legion of kids who feel the same way. lolol. I mean how long can someone shout out for help until you wonder why they are still shouting rather than seeking help? It's a conflict of personality for me with his image/attitude. I think he did some okay raps for sure, esp. some stuff off first LP that wasn't whiny.