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Last edited by Antigone; 01-18-2010 at 05:40 PM.
Yes, ESTj is the stereotypical masculine type. This can be frustrating since I'm female. I agree that, logically, ESTjs are much more useful than INFjs. But INFjs have something ESTjs are missing:. My feelings are gererally trapped, which is a good thing, but makes it hard to connect with people. INFjs excel at connecting with people. It's not your efficiency and productivity we want; we've got that covered. We want a person who will do the work of staying close to us so we don't have to put out the extra effort to stay close to you.
"Who needs the rest of the planet? We've got each other."
I hope somebody smarter answers your other questions...
but as for "EVERY woman" you should be careful.
ive met several LSEs in my life. And do you know what is hidden behind that ambition and pragmatism? deep inside they are pussies who decided that they want to be leaders so they just make an image of themselves which isn't real them even in a tiny amount. for this reason in later life they usually need psychological help. and you delta NFs are naturally gifted when it comes to psychology.
And you are right, they are driven by their wants...and into total stupidity...of course in the middle of the way they usually notice that what they are doing is stupid because of their strongbut they still continue doing that cause they can't see any other alternatives how they could turn things and get the same result as they expect. for my own surprise, some of them are lucky and they don't go bankrupt. others not so lucky need INFjs and their
to show all the alternatives, but only in the middle of the way. that's why
+ introversion is the best pack for LSEs. they only need you to talk when they are totally lost. or when they want to use you as a tool for having good relations with other people
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actuallypeople seem to wear pink glasses when it comes to love interest. I hope I explained everything nicely and took those glasses off of your face.
Sorry for my English. I am not native.
Last edited by sarinana; 01-15-2010 at 07:39 PM.
Oh dear... more stereotypes![]()
EIE tritype 5w4, 4w5, 9w1
As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being.
Carl Jung, "Memories, Dreams, Reflections", 1962
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Last edited by Antigone; 01-18-2010 at 05:41 PM.
Duality is in simple words, two people who can exchange information (communicate/talk/etc) in such a way, that it gives them comfort, feeling relaxt, protected, tickled in their mind, trusted, understood, valued, etc. The famous 'chemistry'.
Duality only starts working in close psychological distance. So if an INFJ watches Arnold Schwarzenegger (ESTJ) on tv, the duality thing doesn't work.
Natural authority? ESTjs can kiss my ass.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
hehe yeah, they are very bossy at times, but when the real boss comes in, they are like little slaves.
I also know the ESTJ guys were scared shit of an ENFJ girl at our office. Really awesome to see. She was sort of the queen without question
I do wonder who would win this natural authority contest between ENTJ and ENFJ.
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Last edited by Antigone; 01-29-2010 at 05:59 PM.
i am not mocking you. why would you think so?
its caused mostly by the same quadra values (and good looks, and the level of pheromones).
You valueconfidence which I don't value so we shouldn't discuss this.
you should meet my LSE mom too probably.
are you sure he is LSE?
maybe. but don't worry i am no better than you.
As I said different quadra values here. What may seem real to you it may seem fake to somebody out of different quadra.
Welcome to the forum!
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Last edited by Antigone; 01-18-2010 at 12:16 PM.
What silverchris9 posted about duality and LSE+EII was spot-on
In terms of "all women" being attracted to LSE's men, I honestly don't know. I would think because they have certain qualities that are expected in men that women *think* they should be with someone like that, but of course that doesn't always work in the long run. They tend to have a lot of qualities that can be rather bothersome to some types; restless/nervous demeanor, often temperamental, workaholic tendencies, can be overly dry/boring/serious, etc.
They're also not particularly romantic or emotionally open in the typical sense, which I imagine would come off as not caring to some women.
Also, I think that to a woman who is rather independent an LSE will come across as annoyingly demeaning
Duality is not a utopia, as in, you can't expect to meet a dual and live happily ever after. You have to have other things connecting you two, like shared values/beliefs, mutual respect and attraction, matching goals (i.e. marriage, kids, no-kids, etc)
It means an inclination to spend more time with one another than with other people. Although I don't know how true this is for all LSE's and EII's....One last question: What means "This dual pair is characterized with certain reticence, isolation from other people (...) and integrity in everything."
EII INFj
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maybe its because stereotypical male is described like LSE
and stereotypical female like IEI
conflictors![]()
Where do you get these stereotypical descriptions? I was looking in the library and no luck on the subject.