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Most NTs are strange and goofy, especially us irrationals. ILEs are just sort of, crazy, and yes annoying and uncomfortable, and plainly weird to a lot of people who don't understand the combination. NTs aren't SFs, to put it lightly. Doesn't matter how social they come across to me, it's always a big mistake waiting to happen, or how talkative they are. Hmm, and ILIs can't really be annoying or uncomfortable to people irl unless they're directly criticizing something or are so unfocused that they're close to severing. Usually we're just too lazy and unaware to care. ILIs can annoy people by being physically or mentally away from the group, for the most part. We have a way of communicating our irrelevant thoughts when we just don't care about what's going on around us.ILE is not the kind of person you want to be dating if you're not an SEI, from my experience. They just go so well together. So don't get too attached (which I don't imagine will be a problem for an Fi ignoring like yourself). My LIE friend is pretty annoying and socially retarded, and it's especially annoying to me when I'm the introverted lazy one, and he's a direct contrast, bosses you and get's in your face, expects you to do all of this stuff and has a natural work ethic, but we have so much fun together, ahh.
Nevertheless, sounds deathly exciting. I don't really change my temperament or energy level around different people. I can withdraw if things are too different. But on an ethical level, I can look at the other person and where they're coming from. I still don't really know myself, so picking up on what I don't know about someone else is fun and I can do it. If I pretend to see where someone is coming from, I can better begin to actually do it. I just need them to persist. I love all sorts of people, and letting them talk and do their own thing has never been a problem for me. I'm a natural introvert and can easily adapt. Even to some Fe people now and then. I can't really adapt much to them, or especially in those types of environments, however. But I'm a good listener and can entertain someone's thoughts by mere agreement and being polite, and hell, even asking stupid questions from time to time.
I tend to naturally dislike ILEs... (I just read that Gilly thinks they're my dual, which I find, um, RIDICULOUS... Gilly: we're the same type. EIE. I just disagree with how you currently "understand" Socionics... Just b/c you don't like how I'm disagreeing with you doesn't mean we're in different quadras.)
I tend to find ILEs smarmy, wimpy, and annoying all at the same time... For example, David Axelrod, an Obama administration advisor -- generally I agree with his politics -- I'm currently a Democrat; however, I find him so personally annoying that, in the past, I've literally changed the channel... I find him so annoying -- petty, and... I think smarmy is a good word.
LOL, I sent a report to a (Dutch, if it matters) guy who I type as ILE and this is his reply. ILEs have this peculiarity of giving redundant or not required explanations, entering many ramified details even if the other won't probably understand - this guy is into security software, and I have no idea what he's talking about, I just submitted two obscure failed test results to him - here's his typical ILE answer:
The guy also has written an blog entry about something, but the same line, explaining how he managed to do something, which in theory nobody would readThanks!
Fixed the first one in my trunk (Is based on the fact that the test
depended on the output of rand() (Which is of course not identical on
every system. Fixed that.)
The second one I know the cause. Will look into how I'll fix it (64-bit
representation of the MPI values)..
Thanks again!
Also, I'm not sure whether it's because of Fe-Valuing or something, but ILEs are very enthusiastic, more positive when they write than when you meet them personally. Probably because they're in their environment, doing what they like when they like, I guess. Anyway, I recall discussing some technical stuff with another ILE from a studio (again if it matter, California) he was like all "wow!", "cool!", "thanks!", "I love this!", "I could help you with that!".
This reminds me of the infinite difficulty I have in not using several sets of parentheses in every sentence(which is allegedly bad writing or something...pfft). There's just so much "on a moderately related note" info hanging out there. ILE thing, or is that a stretch?Originally Posted by Bolt
This is the place where I procrastinate on things Sig related.
ILE
Umm....he's not ILE and you are
I know this because I never ever ever supervise him.
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Certainly related and I have the same problem. The thoughts always ramify into a lot of directions and there is basically no way to tell when to stop refining and where to put them - it's just arbitrary choice. I saw something like this "tree" in IEE though.
Ummm, ILE know where to put their thoughts...that's very Ti-ish. What she/he means is that she/he has very many thoughts.
Dual type
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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