Jude Law

[aisa]

I didn't interpret jumpiness as Ne base, but as EP temperament : ). EJ's would gesticulate and sit differently in the chair, he's way too loose and relaxed. Don't know how to explain, but I'm sure he is not Fe ego, he's just telling funny stories. When Fe base tells funny stories, it's much more deliberate and controlled. To me he seems more like an infantile (in socionics sense : )) excited guy telling a story, jumping from one thing to the next.

Thinking now, is ILE impossible for Jude?

Edit: How Fe base tells stories, for comparison @aisa:
(video)

Yeah, upon rewatching I agree with EP. Idk about Ne base, I managed to actually listen to what he's saying and it is a possibility. I tell stories a similar way when excited. (Like Refi mentioned about himself.) But not sure if this is Ne or just EP gesticulating in excitement, or e7 or sth. I still can't counter @Amber's arguments in favour of SLE.

I tried watching another interview with him but in all honesty I have to admit I stop listening to him after about 5 seconds and just look as I find him visually pleasing. So I'm no good for typing this one.

[Amber]

robert downey is SEE > SLE

[darya]

Yeah, upon rewatching I agree with EP. Idk about Ne base, I managed to actually listen to what he's saying and it is a possibility. I tell stories a similar way when excited. (Like Refi mentioned about himself.) But not sure if this is Ne or just EP gesticulating in excitement, or e7 or sth. I still can't counter @Amber's arguments in favour of SLE.

I tried watching another interview with him but in all honesty I have to admit I stop listening to him after about 5 seconds and just look as I find him visually pleasing. So I'm no good for typing this one.

Yeah, I don't know either anymore. I guess he can be SLE : ) I like Jude even though he's got a raging douche side to him.

[blackburry]

oops. I thought IEI..

[LJDL]

I noticed that all 3 SLE votes on this thread came from IEI girls...so I’m not sure that’s entirely accurate (maybe just wishful thinking ). I do not know many SLEs who spend their days reading Tolstoy and Shakespeare and re-enacting Hamlet on stage.

Anyway...most people seem to agree that he is ENFx. So let’s start by looking at quadra values. Beta vs Delta, which are opposing quadras.

He is reserved, polite, and tries to keep controversial opinions to himself. He has said that he is always seeking new things as an actor and appreciates people who are open-minded. He isn’t trying to change the world or influence large numbers of people; on the contrary, he has said many times he desires a simple, quiet life with his family. These are Delta values. Beta types have a much more global focus and desire to make a difference, to make an impact on the world. Living a quiet, hidden life would not appeal much to an EIE.

He mentions appreciating work ethic and efficiency quite often in interviews (Te-valuing). For example, in an interview from ‘Side Effects’ he mentions that the director expects them to be very prepared and to work efficiently, and he said that motivated him to do the work beforehand and come prepared (Te-mobilizing). He said he enjoys working with people who have good work ethic and are open to new ideas. Fi and Delta values can also be seen from his very personal approach to acting. He has stated many times that he tries to fully understand each character and get into their head, to figure out who they are and what they believe. For example, he often states that he gets into character by researching the character’s history, occupation, time period, and any other relevant information and likes to gather as many facts about them as possible (Te). From there, he tries to get into their head and gain insight into the character’s motivations. That is almost word for word Ne-Fi use, as described by Meged and many others. He says this in almost every interview when asked about the character he is playing, but this interview is just one example where he mentions finding autobiographical facts that give insight into the character’s feelings and identity (skip to 11:25):



Also in the above interview, he talks about how he almost turned down the role of Dickie Greenleaf because he thought it was a superficial character, but Anthony Minghella managed to talk him out of it by explaining all of the possibilities of the role. He says he likes variety and always doing something new, and wants to have a wide variety of roles and not be boxed into any one particular type of film. He said he’s only interested in playing characters that “have a journey and evolve” and develop over the course of the film. He often mentions how important it is to understand a character’s motivations and to see things from their perspective. For example, in one interview (with China Exchange), he says, “No one is ever just a ‘villian’. They obviously believe in who they are and what they are doing, so you have to get into their head and understand that.” He also said Hamlet, an EIE, was one of the hardest characters he’s ever had to play because of the need to be emotionally “on” and project that all the time. He also mentioned that the MOST difficult character he's ever had to play was probably Alexei Karenin (an Ne-polr character), because he was very rigid in his worldview and very closed off to possibilities.

Another way to determine the difference between EIE and IEE, is to look at his approach to acting:

Is he using his intuition to control the emotional atmosphere and project a vision? (Fe-Ni, EIE)

Or is he using his understanding of human relationships to gain insight into the character? (Ne-Fi, IEE)

I think the answer is clear, he says which one he uses himself.

When he gives an interview in front of an audience, he doesn’t pay much attention to the audience but seems focused on getting out all the ideas he has in his mind. He frequently goes off on tangents and interrupts himself in the middle of sentences. This again suggests Ne; in an interview with an audience, an EIE would look frequently at the audience and try to engage them, try to control the atmosphere in the room, and would be much more organized and straightforward when speaking. There is also a segment with him and Lady Gaga (a true EIE) on the Graham Norton Show, where it can be seen that he is a bit uncomfortable with her, and they couldn't be more different:



He has also said that he likes playing characters who grow, develop, and change. When he plays villains, he said he sees the potential good within them. He tries to understand their motivations. In an interview he said he taps into a part of himself with each character; he tries to find part of himself that relates to the character and brings that forth. He also dislikes the idea of imposing one’s own values on others, and hates the idea of being put into a box. He said he always likes doing something new and always seeks out new opportunities to do things he’s never done before as an actor. All of this strongly suggests Ne and Fi; Delta NF.

He takes his work very seriously, and really tries to embody whatever character he’s playing. He doesn’t do well with playful banter, as if he doesn’t know how to react to it. Excessive emotional displays seem to make him a little uncomfortable. I’ve noticed he has no social media accounts and generally keeps his opinions to himself. This is in contrast to many Beta celebrities, who seem to be constantly broadcasting their political and other viewpoints to the world to try to influence others in some way. EIEs desire to influence people. He isn’t like that. He’s a very private person who says he wants to have a stable family life but seems to have been sidetracked by other possibilities. More indicators of IEE. He seems to desire stability, comfort and peace; all of which point to Si-suggestive. I haven’t seen anything about him that indicates Ti as suggestive, but feel free to correct me.

I think his supposed ‘player’ reputation comes from wanting to explore other possibilities in search of an ideal, rather than pure physical gratification. He seems to act impulsively, based off of his feelings. This is all more likely with ENFp. One socionics theorist said that IEE may have the hardest time finding a life partner and settling down because of their idealism combined with constantly seeing other possibilities.

Initially, before I knew much about him, I went into this thinking he was EIE, but the more I learned about him the more clear it was that he is IEE. If the things I have mentioned are not signs of Delta values and the IEE type, and you are going to type from your own subjective opinion based entirely off what he looks like, gestures like, sounds like, etc. then Socionics is a useless theory and we all may as well get off these forums.

To sum up:

Ne-Fi: Seeks novelty in types of characters and films. Good at discerning motivations and intentions. Sees the multiple layers and hidden potential within each character he plays, and the good within villains.

Te-mobilizing: Appreciates good work ethic and organization and feels motivated by directors with those traits. Says he loves reading, learning, and gathering knowledge. Starts each new role by reading, researching, and gathering as many facts about the character as possible. Then uses these facts to gain more insight into character’s identity and motivations (Ne-Fi).

Si-suggestive: Has a very ‘domestic’ side. Says he spends free time relaxing, spending time with family, cooking, etc. Says one of the traits he looks for in a woman is someone who can cook, because he loves food. Says he is “a bit boring” and desires a quiet, simple, ordinary life.

Ti-polr: Dislikes being categorized and put into boxes.

I could give many many more examples but this post is already too long, so hopefully people actually read it. Point is, the evidence overwhelmingly points to IEE. So far, no one has given any substantial explanation as to why they are typing him as EIE. “Being passionate about something” is not an example of Fe. All 16 types can seem passionate when talking about something they are interested in. Many typings are getting thrown around but no one is providing actual evidence to back any of it up.

I can understand where the EIE typing comes from, but everything I’ve learned about him points to ENFp. Visual identification can be useful but only if backed by other evidence. You can’t accurately type based off of VI alone. So if someone can give a clear argument to back their reasoning for his typing as anything other than IEE, that would be much appreciated. Until then, I am convinced he is IEE!

[Kiba]

I actually could see IEE for him. I think he's a good actor, though not so attractive from afar to me personally, but I think irl could be different mb. His face has always look IEE to me. Actually he does some mannerism that my IEE hub does. And yeah, I see Fe for Gaga for sure, and comparing them both, I'd tell Ne Fi for him and Fe Ni for her. I think Graham Norton could be SEE (or ESE?).

[vesstheastralsilky]

LSI-Ti THE FARMER/NAVIGATOR

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EIE