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    What are key indicators of a person having so last in their instinctual stacking?

    Possibly dumb question: does so-last imply less-than-stellar social skills?

    I would think not, since many more factors go into a person than just their instinctual stacking, but I'm new to this and would like some input....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoapOfSapphire View Post
    What are key indicators of a person having so last in their instinctual stacking?

    Possibly dumb question: does so-last imply less-than-stellar social skills?

    I would think not, since many more factors go into a person than just their instinctual stacking, but I'm new to this and would like some input....
    Well social types main focus is on networking, their focus is on developing networks with people in order to aid them in survival. A good example of the "social instinct" in nature is a school of fish working together to form a larger fish... that kind of cooperative spirit in order to survive is what the social instinct is. Of course its a little different in humans, its usually concerned with building networks to be connected to people, to be connected to a society, so you can cooperate together in order to prosper.

    Social types have good social skills in so far as those skills help them develop networks. The nature of those networks is determined by the secondary type (sp or sx).

    However the interesting thing is sexual types are also likely to have strong social skills, but theirs is not focused on building networks, but on developing intimate 1-to-1 relations with others. This is like, a strong friendship, a strong romance.... what is typically referred to as bonding (for example male bonding) and/or chemistry (for example in a dating situation).


    THAT ANSWERS ABOUT HOW SOCIAL INSTINCT RELATES TO "SOCIAL SKILLS"


    Now onto what So last means.... it means your focus in life is mostly on Sp and Sx motivations... you have So motivations.... but you tend to ignore them..... they take a backseat.... your aware that building social networks is a smart idea.... but your not focused on it that much, your focus is on Sp and Sx matter first and subsequently by the time you find yourself realizing something valuable in the realm of So instincts.... your a little "behind" compared to others, your a little slower in that area, What an So person picked up immediately and obviously, took you a little longer, so effectively your probably not to efficient at this approach to things, but it does mean alternatively your probably highly efficient and quick with the Sp and Sx stuff.

    As an example, you may be working this job for two years and realize, hey the boss is promoting all his buddies that he plays golf with, you know if I knew this I would have just picked up golf and joined in on his little group to get promoted. Thats what a sp and sx person may realize after some time, whereas a social instinct type may have noticed this right off the bat and either chose to find a different job where they fit in better with the scene or begin to take golf lesson and implant themselves into the golf group so they could spend more time with the boss to discuss matters.... they would be highly aware of the networking around them and pick up on the trends and operate in that network/scene.

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    I like HaveLucidDream's explanation, but I'd just like to add: So is the desire to establish and maintain social connections. So-lasts are most likely to lose contact with those that aren't really close to them. I'd imagine that most So-lasts would feel that maintaining such contacts would be a waste of time and energy since they are prioritizing on Sp and Sx. I tend to think of So-firsts as social network whores (Myspace, Facebook, etc.) So-firsts tend towards getting themselves out there. So-lasts view these things as draining or unimportant unless necessary for Sp or Sx ends.

    I tend to think of the tertiary instinct as a place of apathy. Even if one understands the importance, "it's just not worth the effort."
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    I don't think that is the case, Az. I think I'm so/sx, but I follow your pattern of basically losing contact with everyone who either doesn't contact me first or who doesn't have some emotional place in my life, aside from catching up from time to time. Then again, there is user Ssmall who also follows the same (or a similar?) pattern to me, and self-types as so-last, so I'm not sure.

    I think "losing contacts" is possibly more of a weak sx thing, since I tend to basically be a stable part of whatever community I'm in (eg, my WoW guild, or the boards here), and most of my contacts that I spend time talking to will be a part of that community themselves (eg various forum members or my guild leader).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolanzon View Post
    I don't think that is the case, Az. I think I'm so/sx, but I follow your pattern of basically losing contact with everyone who either doesn't contact me first or who doesn't have some emotional place in my life, aside from catching up from time to time. Then again, there is user Ssmall who also follows the same (or a similar?) pattern to me, and self-types as so-last, so I'm not sure.

    I think "losing contacts" is possibly more of a weak sx thing, since I tend to basically be a stable part of whatever community I'm in (eg, my WoW guild, or the boards here), and most of my contacts that I spend time talking to will be a part of that community themselves (eg various forum members or my guild leader).
    Hmmm, that makes sense. It seems that Sx-firsts would be more likely to try to keep the bonds which they have established, tho not really care about establishing more contacts especially in the case of Sx/Sp. While say, So/Sp would be strongly part of their networks, but not likely to keep contact with individuals which are not part of that.

    Maybe a better way of describing So-lasts are like lone wolves who have their close friends, but aren't really part of anything even if they are a participant. So-lasts may have a good amount of friends, but will still likely consider themselves loners since they aren't inclined toward trying to belong anywhere.
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    From ocean-moonshine's instinct page.

    When the social instinct is least developed, the individual is going to find it difficult to see why it is important to form social connections or to cultivate multiple relationships. This, in turn, can lead to a certain amount of social isolation. And, as we all must find a niche in the larger whole, those whose social instinct is least developed, can find it difficult to negotiate the needs of the social realm which make this possible. Those whose social instinct is last in the instinctual stacking, find interdependence difficult and dependence on others barely tolerable. But all human beings are interdependent, and sometimes, dependent - when they are, for instance, young, weak, sick, old or dying. Those whose social instinct remains undeveloped are trying to attain a type of independence and self-sufficiency which is not possible for human beings. This “false independence” almost certainly leads to unnecessary suffering and impoverishment of experience.
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