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    Hi, a observation I have on ISTj's Se is their reading ability of people's move which is concrete and tangible and can associate it with their intention. They seem to read me very well, each physical moves that I've made, they have read it successfully and what my true intention was. Maybe because I'm their dual or other Se' ego would also likely to be able to read their dual partner just as easily.

    Any ISTj wants to comment on this, or someone who has noticed this ability in ISTj should share it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
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    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    I have a question.

    Do EIEs fear this ability?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinel View Post
    I have a question.

    Do EIEs fear this ability?
    I have never thought of that. Acutally I both admired it and also is afraid of it. It good if someone can read my true intention with just my physical movement, what I want, need and desire without me saying a single word; makes my life easier. At the same time EIE is suppose to be good in acting and lying, I agree, if I really do need to hide something, which everyone does in their life, I think I can fool ISTj a little bit in that regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07490 View Post
    I have never thought of that. Acutally I both admired it and also is afraid of it. It good if someone can read my true intention with just my physical movement, what I want, need and desire without me saying a single word; makes my life easier. At the same time EIE is suppose to be good in acting and lying, I agree, if I really do need to hide something, which everyone does in their life, I think I can fool ISTj a little bit in that regard.
    Hmm. So if we expose you will you be offended?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinel View Post
    Hmm. So if we expose you will you be offended?
    Hmm interesting, I imagine that from the other side of the coin, IF WE EXPOSED your dirty secrets I would say I am sure you be more offended that us!


    a side note, ISTj are probably one of the most secretive, private and reserved about expressing their feelings than other types there are. Depending generally what trust means, there is another side of hidden secret about ISTj that even their dual will never noticed. on other practical matters they are the one to count on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07490 View Post
    Hmm interesting, I imagine that from the other side of the coin, IF WE EXPOSED your dirty secrets I would say I am sure you be more offended that us!


    a side note, ISTj are probably one of the most secretive, private and reserved about expressing their feelings than other types there are. Depending generally what trust means, there is another side of hidden secret about ISTj that even their dual will never noticed. on other practical matters they are the one to count on...
    Okay, so if I expose both sides at the same time you'd agree it's a fair game, then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07490 View Post
    Hi, a observation I have on ISTj's Se is their reading ability of people's move which is concrete and tangible and can associate it with their intention. They seem to read me very well, each physical moves that I've made, they have read it successfully and what my true intention was. Maybe because I'm their dual or other Se' ego would also likely to be able to read their dual partner just as easily.

    Any ISTj wants to comment on this, or someone who has noticed this ability in ISTj should share it.
    its a dual thing, Se has very little to do with it
    <Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not

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    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    its a dual thing, Se has very little to do with it
    I didn't really want to make this thread because duals should understand each other well, which is true. But more of that extrovert sensing awareness and their ability to read people's physical motive into what they want, that is . Talking to most ISTj's I see that they analyst in depth of someone's personality based on how they present themselves on the table. Using their Ni, they can relate that into a global concept of the unconscious awareness introvert intuition processes. basically it's like how your minds think and feel will definity display and transfer it outward physically. if you are tired mentally and it will show outwardly, is what they can read upon well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07490 View Post
    I didn't really want to make this thread because duals should understand each other well, which is true. But more of that extrovert sensing awareness and their ability to read people's physical motive into what they want, that is . Talking to most ISTj's I see that they analyst in depth of someone's personality based on how they present themselves on the table. Using their Ni, they can relate that into a global concept of the unconscious awareness introvert intuition processes. basically it's like how your minds think and feel will definity display and transfer it outward physically. if you are tired mentally and it will show outwardly, is what they can read upon well.
    I think you're idealizing. Their Ni isn't that great overall.

    I haven't experienced istj's to be a great judge of person, or character. If a persons tired, alot more is going to show as there's less control, so reading them isn't any kind of achievement.

    Maybe they can read pieces of a person, but as far as getting the complete picture, I wouldn't say that's accurate.
    <Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not

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    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    I think you're idealizing.
    I think you are being presumptuous.

    Their Ni isn't that great overall.


    If a persons tired, alot more is going to show as there's less control, so reading them isn't any kind of achievement.
    I think any type can tell if you're physically tired or not, I was jsut using a simple example.

    Maybe they can read pieces of a person, but as far as getting the complete picture, I wouldn't say that's accurate.
    well this I agree in a way, but I really want to understand the aspect of reading people's movement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07490 View Post
    well this I agree in a way, but I really want to understand the aspect of reading people's movement.
    I'm not sure if there's much to understand about Se besides that it is only a part of it. Se is observant, so we naturally collect data about people around us.

    The way we tell motives, I believe is mostly a Ti process. We deduce a person's internal state from our repertoire of observational data which we accumulated with Se over time. It is not perfect, as at best it is still not 100% deductable, and it completely fails if the person is not showing any consistency in behavior, but usually it's not too far off.
    Last edited by Heinel; 12-11-2009 at 02:30 AM.

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    LSI's are good at spinning people around in their swivel chairs and flushing them. LOL

    seriously. creative use of force....i've seen it time and time again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze View Post
    LSI's are good at spinning people around in their swivel chairs and flushing them. LOL

    seriously. creative use of force....i've seen it time and time again.
    Well, I found this:

    The Enneagram Blogspot: New! - Profiling - The picture of the unhealthy SX 3w2 "The Star"

    And it looks like it'll be an exciting ride

    We'll see.

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