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    i hate neat freaks, it seems like they're constantly organising and over organising and never actually doing anything other than "organising" thinsg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post
    i hate neat freaks, it seems like they're constantly organising and over organising and never actually doing anything other than "organising" thinsg.
    Yeah. It seems like they're wasting away so much time of their life with that type of thing, I can't wrap my head around it.
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    I am appropriately clean; my clothes pile up sometimes but other than that I am fairly organized.
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    Well, in the series "criminal minds", Gideon says that the room of a person defines his personality. I've thought a little bit about this and it seems that those with a rational (logic, ethics) dominant function , either as 1s or 2nd, are clean and those with N/S are messy. And remember physical, apparent order may hide "logistical" chaos, I mean: imagine a bunch of books in a shelf: they can be arranged alphabetically...or not. In the latter case, an observer who doesn't bother to check it may think the owner is very neat, but it would be difficult to find a certain book because the books may be placed randomly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana View Post
    I organize my books by subject category on the bookshelf, but leave them laying around the house wherever I've been reading them.
    Yeah, I have a hard time when I try to read a book and keeping it in the shelf at the same time
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Well, in the series "criminal minds", Gideon says that the room of a person defines his personality. I've thought a little bit about this and it seems that those with a rational (logic, ethics) dominant function , either as 1s or 2nd, are clean and those with N/S are messy. And remember physical, apparent order may hide "logistical" chaos, I mean: imagine a bunch of books in a shelf: they can be arranged alphabetically...or not. In the latter case, an observer who doesn't bother to check it may think the owner is very neat, but it would be difficult to find a certain book because the books may be placed randomly.
    i hate alphabetical order myself

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    So... Tell me your attitude towards neatness/messiness, for my viewing pleasure

    - Do you consider yourself neat/messy? Why are you neat/messy?
    - Do you consciously try to be neat, or are you automatically neat? Do you care about neatness?
    - Do others consider you neat/messy? Does the opinion of others matter?
    - Do you judge others who are neat/messy?
    - Do you set up systems conducive to neatness, or do you organise your things without that conscious consideration?
    Everything you said about yourself applies to me almost perfectly.

    I consider myself messy. I am messy because I don't care to put in enough effort to be neat.

    I don't care about neatness. If I tried to be neat, I would probably fail.

    Others consider me extremely messy. If I think it might cause damage to a relationship I am interested in continuing, then yes, it does matter. If not, then who gives a shit?

    I could care less about whether others are neat or messy. I do have a threshold for neatness. I think that if your living space seems hermetically sealed, then you have a problem; places where people live should feel lived-in. That being said, anything from very messy to normal-to-above-average levels of neatness are totally fine with me. If it's neat, that's nice because it feels all clean and easy, and if it's not neat, it's fine because that kind of stuff doesn't bother me in the slightest, and it's kinda nice, because I know that me and the messy person have at least one thing in common.

    If things happen to fall into neat patterns, great. Otherwise, I make it up as I go along.
    Not a rule, just a trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Well, in the series "criminal minds", Gideon says that the room of a person defines his personality. I've thought a little bit about this and it seems that those with a rational (logic, ethics) dominant function , either as 1s or 2nd, are clean and those with N/S are messy. And remember physical, apparent order may hide "logistical" chaos, I mean: imagine a bunch of books in a shelf: they can be arranged alphabetically...or not. In the latter case, an observer who doesn't bother to check it may think the owner is very neat, but it would be difficult to find a certain book because the books may be placed randomly.
    I put everything in logical order but in a messy way. Like, all my books and documents are alphabetically organized but they don't fit nicely in the shelf, they are a bit all over the place, some of them have dust etc.
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    what silverchris said.
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