So where might typical ENTj's hang out?
How do they act? How do they stand out from other types, especially ESTjs?
What is their style of humor?
It's sad that my dual is one of the types of have the least experience with lol.
So where might typical ENTj's hang out?
How do they act? How do they stand out from other types, especially ESTjs?
What is their style of humor?
It's sad that my dual is one of the types of have the least experience with lol.
“No psychologist should pretend to understand what he does not understand... Only fools and charlatans know everything and understand nothing.” -Anton Chekhov
http://kevan.org/johari?name=Bardia0
http://kevan.org/nohari?name=Bardia0
STOCK MARKET
DOING INSIDER TRADING
$$$
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Bardia; you have the misfortune of having one of the rarest duals, and if you're looking for a female specifically, that's even worse...
Regarding your questions, I found this thread that will most likely suit your needs:
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...real-life.html
Are you the ethical or the sensory subtype?
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
An LIE (Te subtype) I know has very dead pan humor.
LSE's are more likely to work in the trades or some other way with their hands (such as being a surgeon). LIE's are unlikely to be attracted to such fields.
Also, in my experience... LSE's are more likely to focus on the negative aspects of a situation and motivate people by pointing out the bad things that could/will happen if they don't do as they're told (sometimes this takes the form of threats of punishment, depending on the situation).
Most likely ethical. What type are you?
So from what I have compiled I should look in school offices, symphonies, jessica's dating website, businesses, or give up because they are the rarest type (or maybe hardest to identify?).
I can't decide if this one girl I was friends with was ENTj or not. When it was just us two it was fun but she became crazy in group settings.
“No psychologist should pretend to understand what he does not understand... Only fools and charlatans know everything and understand nothing.” -Anton Chekhov
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http://kevan.org/nohari?name=Bardia0
There are many LIEs everywhere! Before meeting a LIE before, I was not able to distinguish them and later after becoming close to one, I could do it.
You can find LIEs in leadership positions. The one I know is a computer engineer (male) and the other one is the pastor's wife. She is involved in many activities and naturally leads.
LIEs are knowledgeable and are like walking encyclopedia (lol well to me anyway). They like talking about long term goals, the future mostly and how things can run most efficiently. One time I told my LIE friend that I am painting my kitchen. He immediately suggested the most efficient way to do it, that is, use one coat of paint but push really hard to avoid wasting paint.
ESI (ISFJ)
What are the main stereotypes/traits of ENTj males. How do they come across on first impression? What are their main interest (excluding money, stock market an other crap)?
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ENFp - Fi 7w6 sp/sx
The Ineffable IEI
The Einstein ENTp
johari nohari
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dominating the discussion.
business like.
like to be right and assume they are always right.
Most have a quick speech.
arrogant and greedy.
inquisitive and moments of humor.
I think ENTj's more than most types are misrepresented by their sterotypes. (could be biased)
Besides I think the stereotypes themselves are inconsistent, but it may just be that ENTj's have a very large range of behaviors.
ENTj sterotypes:
ambitious
forceful
domineering
assholes
absent-minded
business people
know-it-alls
nerdy
that's all I got right now.
Truthfully, everyone who I've heard talk about an ENTj they knew said they were very friendly, and not as much of an ass they're made out to be. Speaking for myself, I may have been brutally honest at time, but only because I'm giving honest criticism, and I always brace them first. "Can I be honest with you?" Truth is, I'm pretty good at telling how I come off to people, so it's unlikely that I would inadvertently say something to be rude, or unnecessarily forceful.
Dunno, ENTj's seem fine to me, not really assholes. I get along quite nicely and they are quite adventurous, which I like. As for know it all's and being ambitious I might agree. The thing is the positive sides of the type remind me of myself, while the negative ones remind me of something I would never be, so just gathering more useless stereotypes to glue a better picture of the said type.
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ENFp - Fi 7w6 sp/sx
The Ineffable IEI
The Einstein ENTp
johari nohari
http://www.mypersonality.info/ssmall/
- bad humor (sexual jokes)
- blunt but in a weird way, like one ENTj professor used to throw things at people not listening but with a smile, not really angry
- energetic
- love money
- very easy to get to know
- kind of intellectual, but less obviously than other NTs
- can have strange changes of sociability level...sometimes extremely sociable sometimes more introverted. Not related to mood tho.
these are the ones I fit, I think, and most other ENTjs I know do too (I know 9 of them)
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
“No psychologist should pretend to understand what he does not understand... Only fools and charlatans know everything and understand nothing.” -Anton Chekhov
http://kevan.org/johari?name=Bardia0
http://kevan.org/nohari?name=Bardia0
“No psychologist should pretend to understand what he does not understand... Only fools and charlatans know everything and understand nothing.” -Anton Chekhov
http://kevan.org/johari?name=Bardia0
http://kevan.org/nohari?name=Bardia0
I know several LIEs - most of them are engineers, though another couple are architects, and another owns his own personal training business.
Yes, they do seem to swing between climbing the ladder at large companies and holding a lot of community leadership positions, or being very independent world traveler sorts. If their job allows it, a bit of both.
IEE
LIE's definitely seem to have a knack for business management and seem to fall naturally into leadership positions.
Most people are afraid of responsibility. There many more tasks and posts of responsibility than there are people willing to take them on. ENTjs are among the types who are seldom afraid of it, of course not always without some hesitation. This is why they seem to "naturally fall" into leadership positions.
In my opinion, what distinguishes them from other types who are also after posts of responsibility and who therefore also seem to "naturally fall" into them, is that ENTjs tend to be able to actually DO most of what is needed.
INTJ [mbti]
INTp [socionics]
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein
And from what I've seen, they do it primarily because it needs to be done, not because they want a title.
This guy (Karl Denninger)seems to me to be a rather typical one for the breed, not totally sure tho so would be glad for confirmation:
INFp
If your sea chart does not match reality, go with reality (Old mariner saying)
I find that responsibility is a driving force in my life. Without it, there's nothing to be done and life gets boring. Obviously too much can be overwhelming, but not having any would render me useless. The more important the responsibility the more it motivates me. Could partly be the Etype 3.