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    Default School of Associative Socionics: Ethics in music

    In this thread we can post music which contains very obvious aspect of ethics. It is usually melody, words and scenario in the video by which we recognise the aspect of ethics. Ethical introverts are sincere and ethical extraverts are passionate.



    Rain and tears all the same
    But in the sun, you've got to play the game
    When you cry in winter time
    You can't pretend, it's nothing but the rain

    Give me an answer of love I need an answer of love
    Rain and tears in the sun
    But in your heart, you feel the rainbow waves...
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    So, Ethics in music is Emo and Emoness? Just kidding...

    I think that the majority of music has (some or many) elements of Ethics, or at least, the majority of music that I listen to does...

    Perhaps I shall post some very obvious ones as you put it...



    Midnight, our sons and daughters
    Were cut down and taken from us
    Hear their heartbeat
    We hear their heartbeat

    In the wind, we hear their laughter
    In the rain, we see their tears
    Hear their heartbeat
    We hear their heartbeat

    In the trees, our sons stand naked
    Through the walls, our daughters cry
    See their tears in the rainfall.
    (That's very Rational Extraverted Feeling...)
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    Tchaikovsky is so genius. I hope my life isn't going to be immensely frustrated because of it.



    Symphony 6, Movement 3! I just finished listening to the 1st and 2nd movement by Previn in depth.


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    Not certain if these can be considered ethics in music.

    Some of the songs which I like:

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    Is it me or Fi seems very passive compared to Fe?

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    Not sure where to start...You can type the music in the way you feel comfortable. However my idea is to develop a rational approach to typing the music. It is a bit difficult for me to get very deeply into it in English and as much as I do it at the Russian forum. I will share my ideas as much as I can. It may be at the same time be of your advantage because you will activate your own resourses and may progress quicker.
    When we just start to type music we need to know the opinions of otheres: are we on the right truck or not? Ideally we should have for discussion each and every type of socion. Therefore we shall not be disheartened if people feel different and we shall be pleased to find understanding. This is first. Secondly try to think about criteria for typing. It is easier to type the music which we are not sure about if we have got some common criteria.

    I will continue in the next post.
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    What music do we consider as ethical? How the ethics can come across in the music? These questions we need to answer before we shall consider the answer. May be there are some different criteria? If it is the song and it's text is about love and feelings we can consider it as ethical but the musical form and the functions used to express ethics may be not ethical in nature. If it is very prominent Fi or Fe then it could be rather yes then not. I would differentiate the music where I definetly see ethics as primary aspects and as secondary aspects but definetly present. That means some songs seem more ethical then the others and some not exactly ethical. Now I will try to sort out the music from your lists which I perceive as definetly ethical from my subjective ISFJ perspective and whcich are not.
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    There is definetly ethics there but not sure which one, probably Fi:
    Dido, sonata Arctica, Olivia N.J. and both of Billy Joel. Not sure about the very first song of Portishead.
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    I do not feel very obvious or primary Fi or Fe in this examples. We can say to a degree that all music like all people have ethics in their structure. I cannot see Fi or Fe unless it is a leading function in the song. I would say that Olivia's song was the most obvious ethical and rational from all of them. I will try to look through the thread of ethical types and will post their lists of music so that you could have a better idea of music Fi and Fe- types. Meanwhile you can feel free to discuss music as your subjective opinion. it does not matter if it is true or not. Important is to exchange ideas, to share opinions and to make a team because it is more fun then just to think on your own.
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    Billy Joel songs in general and "Honesty" in particular sound as ethical to me. May be a few other songs as well but not Fedde Le Grand.
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    VERY Fe:


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    Could it be Fi?

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    Fi







    EII INFj
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    2 Singularity
    Yes, could be. Similar to Freddy Mercury. We shall need to keep eye on her creative work. If it is just one off then it could be the help of otheres around her, I mean ideas. But if we shall see more of that staff then it is possible ENFJ.

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    Thanks for your list. I will add it to the thread -music.

    To all, I have added the music of all who posted their music into threads at this forum and I will be doing it in the future. Thank you.
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    These two songs by her sound Fe (her voice)... to me.




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    I will go in another thread to discuss the types of singers, if you don't mind?
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    Fi expressed through Se:

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