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    Even though socionics exists, there is also God, and His commandments, even thenew word of Jesus. And we must learn to control ourselves, in relation to certain things, different challenges todifferent types. God knows the struggle of everyone and acts and judges in accordance. We must remember that our souls, after our ancient father Adam sinned, are leaning to lusts of the earth and sinful things. We must not let ourselves go because socionics says so, otherwise we get the mark of law of socionics on our hand and forehead and not of God. See exodus 13:9 for why the mark, also mentioned in Revelation, is the mark of law. See more in themarkoflaw.blogspot.com for how the mark of the "beast" is the mark of the laws of the earth that contain abominable laws and trap you with many things into doing the entore law, even though you are not aware of it. This marks with the mark of the beast (not socionics). However the idea with socionics is the same. See the blog, the reaper is already here.
    While Socionics needs no introduction, I do want to state that Socionics has overstated its case against me by alluding to an illusory past. Unless you share my view that Socionics's perorations reek like rotten eggs, there's no need for you to hear me further. Socionics's true goal is to get on my nerves. All the statements that its toadies make to justify or downplay that goal are only apologetics; they do nothing to do something good for others. I feel that writing this letter is like celestial navigation. Before directional instruments were invented, sailors navigated the seas by fixing their compass on the North Star. However, if Socionics were to trick them into fixing their compass on the wrong star they'd soon be so off-course that they'd actually be willing to help it plant the seeds of resistentialism into the tabulae rasae of children's minds.

    When it comes to Socionics's precepts, I maintain that we have drifted along for too long in a state of blissful denial and outright complacency. It's time to yank up yellow-bellied, libidinous wastrels from the dark rocks under which they hide and flaunt them before the bright sunshine of public exposure. The sooner we do that the better because Socionics's claim that the kids on the playground are happy to surrender to the school bully requires a willing suspension of disbelief, an ability to set logic aside and accept any preposterous notion that Socionics throws at us. Socionics has, shall we say, questionable priorities, and everyone with half a brain understands that. Okay, I admit that the people with the smallest minds always have the biggest mouths. But it is important to realize that given the public appetite for more accountability, the ultra-blasphemous tone used by Socionics in its announcements shows what kind of organization it really is . Let me recap that for you because it really is extraordinarily important: You may be wondering why the most yawping firebrands you'll ever see latch onto Socionics's contrivances. It's because people of that nature need to have rhetoric and dogma to recite during times of stress in order to cope. That's also why if Socionics had done its homework, it'd know that if anything will free us from the shackles of its maledicent fibs, it's knowledge of the world as it really is. It's knowledge that I find that some of Socionics's choices of words in its values would not have been mine. For example, I would have substituted "shabby" for "antiprestidigitation" and "indecent" for "incontrovertibleness."

    In point of fact, I can unequivocally suggest how Socionics ought to behave. Ultimately, however, the burden of acting with moral rectitude lies with Socionics itself. Socionics's primary goal is to smear and defame me. All of its other objectives are secondary to this one supreme purpose. That's why you must always remember that I've repeatedly pointed out to Socionics that it knows nothing about the real world. That apparently didn't register with it, though. Oh, well; I guess even Socionics's bedfellows are afraid that Socionics will fuel inquisitions eventually. I have seen their fear manifested over and over again, and it is further evidence that Socionics's plan is to make it virtually impossible to fire incompetent workers. Socionics's functionaries are moving at a frightening pace toward the total implementation of that agenda, which includes breaking down our communities. It may be helpful to take a step back and examine the warp and woof of Socionics's anecdotes. And that's why I say to you: Have courage. Be honest. And give you some background information about Socionics. That's the patriotic thing to do, and that's the right thing to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee View Post
    Even though socionics exists, there is also God, and His commandments, even thenew word of Jesus. And we must learn to control ourselves, in relation to certain things, different challenges todifferent types. God knows the struggle of everyone and acts and judges in accordance. We must remember that our souls, after our ancient father Adam sinned, are leaning to lusts of the earth and sinful things. We must not let ourselves go because socionics says so, otherwise we get the mark of law of socionics on our hand and forehead and not of God. See exodus 13:9 for why the mark, also mentioned in Revelation, is the mark of law. See more in themarkoflaw.blogspot.com for how the mark of the "beast" is the mark of the laws of the earth that contain abominable laws and trap you with many things into doing the entore law, even though you are not aware of it. This marks with the mark of the beast (not socionics). However the idea with socionics is the same. See the blog, the reaper is already here.
    Adam did not sin. The Hebrew word for sin is not used until YHWH is talking with Cain. I just wanted to correct at least that much of your crazy talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    Adam did not sin. The Hebrew word for sin is not used until YHWH is talking with Cain. I just wanted to correct at least that much of your crazy talk.
    While it isn't explicitly labeled sin, by most definitions of "sin," it's in the category. Also, Paul refers to Adam as having sinned ("through Adam all sinned"), which suggests that the usual definitions are reasonably old.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    While it isn't explicitly labeled sin, by most definitions of "sin," it's in the category. Also, Paul refers to Adam as having sinned ("through Adam all sinned"), which suggests that the usual definitions are reasonably old.
    Yes, but that's an interpretation found in the later development in the tradition that falls outside of traditional Jewish understandings. Paul is arguing for an Original Sin that carries itself throughout all humanity - thereby requiring for Paul a savior to conquer death for all - but such a reading is not supported by the text. (But the position of Original Sin becomes especially prominent in Christianity following St. Augustine of Hippo.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    Yes, but that's an interpretation found in the later development in the tradition that falls outside of traditional Jewish understandings. Paul is arguing for an Original Sin that carries itself throughout all humanity - thereby requiring for Paul a savior to conquer death for all - but such a reading is not supported by the text. (But the position of Original Sin becomes especially prominent in Christianity following St. Augustine of Hippo.)
    What Jewish tradition denies is the idea of an inherited "Original Sin", not that Adam's actions were sinful. I think even the most esoteric scholars would have a hard time arguing that disobeying a direct command of God was not sin of some kind.

    Also, one has to be careful when talking about "Jewish tradition", since much of it is post-Christian. We do know that both views of Original Sin were known among the Jews before Christ, but my Google searches have been unable to turn up anything on whether there's any evidence as to which belief is older.

    But you're right that the text of Genesis does not explicitly state such a doctrine, although it doesn't explicitly deny it either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    What Jewish tradition denies is the idea of an inherited "Original Sin", not that Adam's actions were sinful. I think even the most esoteric scholars would have a hard time arguing that disobeying a direct command of God was not sin of some kind.
    I concede my point.

    Also, one has to be careful when talking about "Jewish tradition", since much of it is post-Christian. We do know that both views of Original Sin were known among the Jews before Christ, but my Google searches have been unable to turn up anything on whether there's any evidence as to which belief is older.
    Judaism emerged in the Second Temple Period, and the Rabbinic tradition (out of which modern Judaism emerged) formed later prior to and after Jesus of Nazareth.

    But you're right that the text of Genesis does not explicitly state such a doctrine, although it doesn't explicitly deny it either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    Adam did not sin. The Hebrew word for sin is not used until YHWH is talking with Cain. I just wanted to correct at least that much of your crazy talk.
    Unless you consider the New Testament to be reliable, in which it's stated more clearly that he did. If I describe how someone walked into a 7-11, pointed a gun at the clerk, and made him hand over all the money in the cash register, I don't have to explicitly explain that what he did was "crime" in order for it to be understood.


    Also, this assertion that mark of the beast is "the mark of the laws of the earth" is textually unsupported, and certainly not standard Xian exegesis. As described in the book of Revelation, the mark of the beast seems to be more like the personal seal of the beast (what with the numbers being the "number of his name"), rather than some abstract symbol of "law".

    From my brief glance at it, that "mark of the law" blog is filled with the poorly substantiated ramblings of someone who has only a passing familiarity with reality.
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    lol @ this. listen man, there is no reaper. if there's a god then he's not gonna punish me for existing. that's just an idea morons came up with to scare people. morons like you see everywhere you look. they made it up. it's a lie. god, if he exists, isn't going to burn you for infinity. what did you do to deserve burning for infinity? nothing. now please shut up
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    I have a hard time imagining myself hearing the truth when God is mentioned anywhere on this forum. Especially when compared to Socionics. Hearing the truth about God is not something a 16types thread will provide me with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee View Post
    Even though socionics exists, there is also God, and His commandments, even thenew word of Jesus. And we must learn to control ourselves, in relation to certain things, different challenges todifferent types. God knows the struggle of everyone and acts and judges in accordance. We must remember that our souls, after our ancient father Adam sinned, are leaning to lusts of the earth and sinful things. We must not let ourselves go because socionics says so, otherwise we get the mark of law of socionics on our hand and forehead and not of God. See exodus 13:9 for why the mark, also mentioned in Revelation, is the mark of law. See more in themarkoflaw.blogspot.com for how the mark of the "beast" is the mark of the laws of the earth that contain abominable laws and trap you with many things into doing the entore law, even though you are not aware of it. This marks with the mark of the beast (not socionics). However the idea with socionics is the same. See the blog, the reaper is already here.
    Is this a joke?

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    This came to mind.

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