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    Default INTps & ENTjs not knowing what love is?

    What crap is this that I've been reading? Can somebody explain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xkj220 View Post
    What crap is this that I've been reading? Can somebody explain?
    LOL

    I JUST made a post that inferred something along these lines.

    I don't know that it's specifically a Gamma NT thing though... I guess I would think that it's common to all Te egos? Then again, I'm not sure exactly what it is that you're talking about.

    As for me, I rarely know how I feel about anything. And I depend on others to define my relationship with them.

    Also, different people define "love" in different ways for different things/people at different times. The more I think about the word "love", the less meaning it has. I do tell my family that I love them often though. I don't know if it's type related or if that's just how I was brought up, but it feels good to say it to my family, especially my husband and son. It's an expression of how much I value them.

    Erm... did I answer the question you were trying to ask?
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    Love isn't a feeling. At least not for me. I think everyone has feelings of attraction, hate, hurt, however. It's a human condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    Love isn't a feeling. At least not for me. I think everyone has feelings of attraction however. It's a human condition.
    So you'd say you are incapable of feeling "love"?


    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Erm... did I answer the question you were trying to ask?
    More or less. So gamma NTs don't feel anything, or have trouble identifying their feelings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    Love isn't a feeling. At least not for me. I think everyone has feelings of attraction however. It's a human condition.
    I agree. Feelings are too transient to be called "love". "Love" is more of a state of being. It's a lifestyle, not an emotion.

    Attractions, infatuation, etc. are something different. They're a fun stage of relationships, but they're not "love".

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    have trouble identifying their feelings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xkj220 View Post
    So you'd say you are incapable of feeling "love"?
    I don't understand. How do you "feel" love? It's not a feeling. Like Joy says, it's a state of being.

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    I don't understand. What is a state of being?

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    "love" is actually a bundle concept for a whole slew of things such as psychological attachments, infatuations, value priorities, and emotions.

    Ugh, seriously, don't toot-toot this "state of being" bullshit too much, cuz its pretentious and amounts to a poorly veiled, "Look I'm Fi!"
    The end is nigh

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    I like that, lol.

    Reminds me of a relationship I had with an LSI. It was euphoric for the first 5 or 6 months, but the second we moved in together we fought a lot. I broke up with him for good reasons a few times, but anytime we spent time together he'd somehow manage to talk me into getting back together with him.

    Quote Originally Posted by xkj220 View Post
    I don't understand.
    A feeling can be a deceiving thing. Or rather, we can think we feel something but not be sure that we are. And even if we are, so what? That can change way too quickly. Feelings come and go, but "love" is (at least to me) a decision that I'm going to have a life with this person.

    Maybe that's why the concept of "unrequited love" seems so creepy to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    That's all part of the game. With no hurt, what is the point?
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    I came across this very interesting article on the wikisocion:

    Functional Revise - Wikisocion

    I'll quote:

    The Controllers (+Ti/-Te in ego, +Fe/-Fi agenda) INTp; ENTj; ISTj; ESTp

    This group works best when put in a position of chaos. It can get rid of the problems of things and make sure that nothing stands in the way of an accomplishment. This group as leaders have no remorse about getting rid of people via firing them. This group follows the rules. It knows its place in the hierarchy of things. These people organize things and make sure that things are organized and in order. This group is extremely decisive. This group tries its best to be nice and kind to people. Inside though, these type has a need to be lonely depressed and withdrawn. This group doesn’t know what happiness or love is.

    I've also seen a few members making the same assertions (particularly about the Gamma NTs). It would be nice to see what these members mean when they say such things.

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