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    ...for my family this morning. It was a lot of fun, because everybody was talking, or I was talking, and it was just a good time. It's funny how simple stuff like that makes you feel useful. I even emptied the dishwasher afterward, all the while talking to everyone. It doesn't even seem like work, really, especially when there are other people there to talk to and the conversation is good.

    By the way, have you noticed the difference between generic store eggs and the 'born free' / etc ones? The shells are much tougher in the born free eggs. Also, the born free/naturally fed/etc ones do seem to taste different, perhaps actually sweeter or something? That being said, the jumbo white eggs are cheaper and you do get a lot more food from them. Perhaps related, I also came across a news article from Reuters science that said there really isn't that much nutritional difference between organic foods and regular store stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryu View Post
    It's funny how simple stuff like that makes you feel useful. I even emptied the dishwasher afterward, all the while talking to everyone. It doesn't even seem like work, really, especially when there are other people there to talk to and the conversation is good.
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    By the way, have you noticed the difference between generic store eggs and the 'born free' / etc ones? The shells are much tougher in the born free eggs. Also, the born free/naturally fed/etc ones do seem to taste different, perhaps actually sweeter or something?
    I always buy the cheapest kind, so I haven't. I probably wouldn't notice if there was some difference.

    Perhaps related, I also came across a news article from Reuters science that said there really isn't that much nutritional difference between organic foods and regular store stuff.
    Probably not, in vedgetables the organic ones seem to be sub-par quality compared to "non-organic" ones.
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    IDK, really. Local co-ops seem to have good stuff, and it's a little bit more feasible than getting organic bananas from Guatemala, which do indeed vary. I think it depends on the nature of the goods.

    Truth be told, however, I generally taste the difference between organic and inorganic. Organic just tastes much more 'fresh'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryu View Post
    Truth be told, however, I generally taste the difference between organic and inorganic. Organic just tastes much more 'fresh'.
    So you don't like such a thing as an "inorganic banana"?

    I wish the feel-goodery crowd had chosen a different term rather than "organic" - it has made some parts of my job totally impossible.

    The only inorganic food humans consume is water and salts.
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    I wish the feel-goodery crowd had chosen a different term rather than "organic" - it has made some parts of my job totally impossible.
    Yeah the word "organic" sounds really stupid. There's weird word for those products in finnish: "luomu", which is basically the first syllable from the finnish word nature, and a random suffix added to the end. Sort of like in english it could be for example be "natury".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    I wish the feel-goodery crowd had chosen a different term rather than "organic" - it has made some parts of my job totally impossible.
    What's your job?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    What's your job?
    I'm a chemical engineer whose job includes trying to communicate technical matters to non-technical folks. It's extremely disheartening when I make a point about all organic compounds being treated in a specific way etc, and someone objecting with "what are you talking about? Organic? That's not natural, so it's not organic!" And then I have to explain that the person has no idea of what "organic compounds" really are, which said person may not be willing to acceopt.

    I could use "carbon-based" instead of "organic", but if I use the term "carbon-based" the same kinds of people will start thinking about how evil carbon is etc and totally derail the discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    So you don't like such a thing as an "inorganic banana"?
    My point is that I taste the difference between when something is grown fresh and not radiated or chock full of preservatives.

    tinydancer is probably more in line with what I like. The bananas that are shipped from Guatemala are still a little bit weird sometimes, because they are either often uber green or rotted out from moisture.

    Home grown tomatoes, co op produced stuff locally, that seems to be the best consistent deal. But it's also seasonal.

    Related, the whole notion of 'buying organic' but with 'a huge carbon footprint' - 'organic foods' from places all over the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryu View Post
    I generally taste the difference between organic and inorganic. Organic just tastes much more 'fresh'.
    I'm not good at telling differences like that. I probably couldn't tell pork from beef, just based on taste
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    Aw, that's a bummer. There's nothing like a home-grown tomato. Those pasty, flavorless things in the grocery store just don't cut it.

    And I've never liked the fact that you can bend a zucchini like a rubber chicken. Zucchini are not supposed to be flexible.

    But I grew up on a farm, so I've been spoiled rotten when it comes to food.
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    well yeah the "nutritional difference" would be just about none, as it's the same food. The reason people eat organic things is they're made without the harmful hormones, pestisides, antibiotics, etc. It's the same food, just grown in a safer way. So it might not taste any different.

    A lot of those pesticides end up inside of the food depending on how it's grown, so you can't just wash it of. Long term eating things that are suppose to kill bugs can be harmful.

    Organic food - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Also, meats, milk, etc. can be full of hormones that can affect you -- they pump them up sorta like steroids to make sure the cows will be bulky and make a good profit. Young girls are actually going through puberty faster and some think it's due to the hormones in milk and meat. It can affect men too.

    So it's not that it tastes differently or has different nutrition (it's the same food, exept it's full of pesticides, hormones, antibiotics, etc).

    It's easier to grow large quanities of food using those chemicals so they can make more profit, but it may be bad for our health.
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    When I make breakfast (or any meal) for my family, I feel very useful and happy too, but I also feel like I have just won a war or something.
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    ^ Heh, I can imagine that.

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    I feel very useful when i'm EATING breakfast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    I feel very useful when i'm EATING breakfast.
    Exactly. If you starved to death, that would be one less SLI in the world

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