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    Hey guys,

    Part of the definition of Te as a creative function as given over on the wikisocion says this:

    The individual works with the goal of producing dynamic objects and/or conditions. These objects may be physical or mental so long as they are in motion. If conditions do not allow this function to work, the individual will become bored and increasingly engage in base function activities in complete disregard of the objective facts suggesting otherwise action.

    I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out what this actually means and how it pans out in reality. Like, does this mean that information from the leading function needs to be applied in a way that creates a situation which works towards a goal? Or...well, I'm throughly confused...
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    First of all .. the definition is incomplete. The functions behave differently for both subtypes of INTp. That description is for INTp-Te. For the function (Te), if you think of a fact without an underlying context; with no connections to other facts.. just an isolated fact, having the potential to combine with other facts and form structures.. the fact itself is an object (Te). That potential it has to form structures, which it possesses due to its isolation, is its dynamic potential.

    For (INTp-Te) the information processing works towards producing (Te) through exertions from the base (Ni); which are influenced by the HA function (Fi); all in the name of constructing a coherent working plan of action (Se) which arbitrarily reinforms the function (Fi) of its stability or instability, and the cycle repeats.

    For (INTp-Ni), they seek out objects of (Te) for perception as a way of feeding the base (Ni), in the name of the perfection of a personal (Fi) structure; which, vaguely, indicates the coherence of the base. This Fi function informs the INTp-Ni of a course of action or inaction (Se), guiding the individual toward further information (Te) in the name of seeking out coherence.
    A perceptive person will notice that at this point it is only a small step between INTp-Ni and INFp-Ni.

    Vaguely.. with the Te subtype, the input on whether to refine their current understanding comes from an understanding of the incoherence of facts.. With the Ni subtype, it comes from inclinations and whimsical perceptions from within their mind; a general feeling their work is incomplete, that not everything is done. This is the difference between Se accepting input from Te vs. Se accepting input from Fi. On the same line of thought, Se producing Fi shows the INTp-Tes tendency to make personal remarks on situations and their flaws .. Se producing Te will make logical remarks and observations on the flaws of situations. You can see the difference alot in their senses of humor.
    Could keep elaborating .. but you get the general idea.

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    If you want my opinion, that definition is total crap. It takes a litteral interpretation of "producing", "dynamic" and "object" and puts them together in a way that is supposed to make sense but doesn't in any practical way. None of the three terms should be interpreted in the naive, litteral way as is being done here.

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    So, what is a good way to understand Te-creative then?

    I agree, though. The creative function should be an individual's most socially noticeable trait (as I understand it), and I don't notice either of my SLI friends doing this at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat View Post
    If you want my opinion, that definition is total crap. It takes a litteral interpretation of "producing", "dynamic" and "object" and puts them together in a way that is supposed to make sense but doesn't in any practical way. None of the three terms should be interpreted in the naive, litteral way as is being done here.
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