I don't see it.
And I'll be damned if I'm your beneficiary![]()
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
By the way, good luck finding any similarities in mine and Steve's actual personalities...
And seriously, using a POSED PHOTO for VI by expression comparison? Come on, even Ashton's cronies can't be that stupid...
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
You both jack off in front of mirrors. Classic Ti-ENTp masturbation techniques.
Are you really so stupid that you think whether not someone is posing for a photo makes any damn difference in inborn features and facial expressions? It doesn't. You don't VI like any ENFj anywhere. Period.
And what do you call this Gilligan, "Beta Fe" > Alpha Fe? lol.
Looks more like a neurotic ENTp losing control of his super-id fuctions and simply not knowing when to stop. No actual, self respecting ENFj would repeatedly humiliate themselves in this way. You simply lack the control and directness of an ENFj. This shows in both pictures and videos.
Among other things, in the past, you've also seemed to be fond of mistyping blatant Alpha SFs (Jolie, Zeta-Jones, Bellucci) as "LSIs." Considering your highly and laughably erroneous self typing, this cannot be overlooked and further points toward Ti-ENTp > anything Beta. You seriously need to get over this "my enneagram is such and such, therefore I'm Beta" bullshizzle.
Winterpark is a dumb, ugly ****** who can't type > Winterpark is a smart, attractive ****** who can't type.
Other user whose name I can't be bothered with, your input is as uninformed and useless as usual.
Last edited by duality is cringe; 06-25-2009 at 09:13 PM.
This is exactly how it seems to me. I guess Gilly believes that his excessive displays of "Fe antics" -- which really just translates as emotional clamor -- somehow correlate to the stereotypical, confrontational emotionality that manifests in betas. But the Fe is not controlled or precise in delivery; it's scattered and rather frivolous at times. Likewise, there is no indication of any sort of underpinning awareness as to how the causal Fe reactions are occurring within an abstract realm, again due to their obvious disposition towards the immediate context/environment, and haphazard applications.Originally Posted by DeAnte
And where in the fuck is EJ temperament in the slightest? That line of "reasoning" about Fe-EJs seeming "irrational" is complete bunk, because irrational temperament has nothing to do with irrational behavior anyway! The energy levels are not there at all; even the most chaotic Ni-ENxj maintains a continuous state of psychic control and modulation.
Just stop typing off of apparent personality traits generally derived from the enneagram and somehow correlated with socionics (NeTi contextual systematizing) and face the reality.
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It's not emotional clamor (not sure how you would even think you could deduce that from pictures); it's a directed attempt to produce a certain impact, often one of disgust, surprise, excitement, uncertainty, discomfort, or revulsion, at moments that I see as opportune. That's pretty classic Fe+Ni.
Sure, it's rather frivolous, and often spontaneous, but it's also very intentional, part of a very specific persona that I try to portray in some situations or to some groups of people.But the Fe is not controlled or precise in delivery; it's scattered and rather frivolous at times.
What do you mean "within an abstract realm?" I mean, I have a vague idea of what you're talking about, but give me an example.Likewise, there is no indication of any sort of underpinning awareness as to how the causal Fe reactions are occurring within an abstract realm, again due to their obvious disposition towards the immediate context/environment, and haphazard applications.
Also, keep in mind that part of the "image" I project for a lot of people IS one of frivolity, because I had experiences early in life that signaled to me that people had a hard time taking me seriously; therefore, I adapted in order to play to my perceived strengths. However, in my own self-image, I don't think of myself as a frivolous or silly person at all, and I rarely identify with other people who are "silly;" I see myself as more serious, romantic, and intellectual, and relegate my "silliness" to nothing more than a tool to entertain myself when I'm bored or to mess with people and get a reaction.
Again, the thing you are neglecting is that I AM in control of these perceived "outbursts;" it's not just some random emotionality welling up and needing to be expressed, but rather a targetted attempt to produce a specific reaction.And where in the fuck is EJ temperament in the slightest? That line of "reasoning" about Fe-EJs seeming "irrational" is complete bunk, because irrational temperament has nothing to do with irrational behavior anyway! The energy levels are not there at all; even the most chaotic Ni-ENxj maintains a continuous state of psychic control and modulation.
Sigh, your old cart-blanche standby: "get real!"Just stop typing off of apparent personality traits generally derived from the enneagram and somehow correlated with socionics (NeTi contextual systematizing) and face the reality.Give me some good rationale for your poorly conditioned view of my type, and I might consider it some day.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
god deante you're a terrorist, and just awful at typing.
oh
and you're a dick.
fuck, i just noticed. i feel like i'm really late on this.
asd
lol @ Gilly having Ni/Se.
its cuz he's CEr-RAZIEkljsdflkj!#@
Your attempts at being EIE come across as empty and infantile. You lack the sort of subtle charisma, focus, and otherworldliness that beta NF's have.
With Beta NF's I feel like they are insubstantial. They move out of my radar and they're gone. Like there is a fog, or better yet a vacuum and they will just float away from my vision of the world. As if Beta/Gamma are ghost people who just don't stick to the setting. Alpha/Delta move in accordance to the setting. They are grounded in a tangible context and focused on manipulating it.
You Gilly, are not the same. You fit fine.
You're not a ghost person lol.
The end is nigh
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
i am pretty sure gilly is an ethical type at this point. i was more tempted to say INFp after meeting him, but i think that a good case can be made for either beta NF. he does some odd (to me) swinging between coming off as very extroverted and reasonably introverted. i also briefly had some real problems seeing him as a rational type of any sort, but i guess that could be due to ethical type mood swings. i guess some things about gilly are ENTp-ish if you think weird al is ENTp. he could be an ENTp like weird al, i suppose (and i think that a weird al comparison is completely reasonable.) otherwise i don't have any problems with his self typing.
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