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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    How do I VI? :wink:
    Ti-ENTps


    ****** ass ENTps




    Not fucking Ni-ENFj, that's for damn sure.

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    I don't see it.

    And I'll be damned if I'm your beneficiary
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    By the way, good luck finding any similarities in mine and Steve's actual personalities...

    And seriously, using a POSED PHOTO for VI by expression comparison? Come on, even Ashton's cronies can't be that stupid...
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    By the way, good luck finding any similarities in mine and Steve's actual personalities...
    You both jack off in front of mirrors. Classic Ti-ENTp masturbation techniques.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    And seriously, using a POSED PHOTO for VI by expression comparison? Come on, even Ashton's cronies can't be that stupid...
    Are you really so stupid that you think whether not someone is posing for a photo makes any damn difference in inborn features and facial expressions? It doesn't. You don't VI like any ENFj anywhere. Period.



    And what do you call this Gilligan, "Beta Fe" > Alpha Fe? lol.


    Looks more like a neurotic ENTp losing control of his super-id fuctions and simply not knowing when to stop. No actual, self respecting ENFj would repeatedly humiliate themselves in this way. You simply lack the control and directness of an ENFj. This shows in both pictures and videos.

    Among other things, in the past, you've also seemed to be fond of mistyping blatant Alpha SFs (Jolie, Zeta-Jones, Bellucci) as "LSIs." Considering your highly and laughably erroneous self typing, this cannot be overlooked and further points toward Ti-ENTp > anything Beta. You seriously need to get over this "my enneagram is such and such, therefore I'm Beta" bullshizzle.

    Winterpark is a dumb, ugly ****** who can't type > Winterpark is a smart, attractive ****** who can't type.

    Other user whose name I can't be bothered with, your input is as uninformed and useless as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeAnte
    Looks more like a neurotic ENTp losing control of his super-id fuctions and simply not knowing when to stop. No actual, self respecting ENFj would repeatedly humiliate themselves in this way. You simply lack the control and directness of an ENFj. This shows in both pictures and videos.
    This is exactly how it seems to me. I guess Gilly believes that his excessive displays of "Fe antics" -- which really just translates as emotional clamor -- somehow correlate to the stereotypical, confrontational emotionality that manifests in betas. But the Fe is not controlled or precise in delivery; it's scattered and rather frivolous at times. Likewise, there is no indication of any sort of underpinning awareness as to how the causal Fe reactions are occurring within an abstract realm, again due to their obvious disposition towards the immediate context/environment, and haphazard applications.

    And where in the fuck is EJ temperament in the slightest? That line of "reasoning" about Fe-EJs seeming "irrational" is complete bunk, because irrational temperament has nothing to do with irrational behavior anyway! The energy levels are not there at all; even the most chaotic Ni-ENxj maintains a continuous state of psychic control and modulation.

    Just stop typing off of apparent personality traits generally derived from the enneagram and somehow correlated with socionics (NeTi contextual systematizing) and face the reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    This is exactly how it seems to me. I guess Gilly believes that his excessive displays of "Fe antics" -- which really just translates as emotional clamor
    It's not emotional clamor (not sure how you would even think you could deduce that from pictures); it's a directed attempt to produce a certain impact, often one of disgust, surprise, excitement, uncertainty, discomfort, or revulsion, at moments that I see as opportune. That's pretty classic Fe+Ni.

    But the Fe is not controlled or precise in delivery; it's scattered and rather frivolous at times.
    Sure, it's rather frivolous, and often spontaneous, but it's also very intentional, part of a very specific persona that I try to portray in some situations or to some groups of people.

    Likewise, there is no indication of any sort of underpinning awareness as to how the causal Fe reactions are occurring within an abstract realm, again due to their obvious disposition towards the immediate context/environment, and haphazard applications.
    What do you mean "within an abstract realm?" I mean, I have a vague idea of what you're talking about, but give me an example.

    Also, keep in mind that part of the "image" I project for a lot of people IS one of frivolity, because I had experiences early in life that signaled to me that people had a hard time taking me seriously; therefore, I adapted in order to play to my perceived strengths. However, in my own self-image, I don't think of myself as a frivolous or silly person at all, and I rarely identify with other people who are "silly;" I see myself as more serious, romantic, and intellectual, and relegate my "silliness" to nothing more than a tool to entertain myself when I'm bored or to mess with people and get a reaction.

    And where in the fuck is EJ temperament in the slightest? That line of "reasoning" about Fe-EJs seeming "irrational" is complete bunk, because irrational temperament has nothing to do with irrational behavior anyway! The energy levels are not there at all; even the most chaotic Ni-ENxj maintains a continuous state of psychic control and modulation.
    Again, the thing you are neglecting is that I AM in control of these perceived "outbursts;" it's not just some random emotionality welling up and needing to be expressed, but rather a targetted attempt to produce a specific reaction.

    Just stop typing off of apparent personality traits generally derived from the enneagram and somehow correlated with socionics (NeTi contextual systematizing) and face the reality.
    Sigh, your old cart-blanche standby: "get real!" Give me some good rationale for your poorly conditioned view of my type, and I might consider it some day.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeAnte View Post
    Winterpark is a dumb, ugly ****** who can't type > Winterpark is a smart, attractive ****** who can't type.
    You've hurt my feelings, Mary. *weeps*


    As for Gills being ENTp, I can still sort of see the possibility (even though people that know him better could have more valuable input), and not just because DeAnte thinks he VIs like Don Quixote either.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    god deante you're a terrorist, and just awful at typing.

    oh

    and you're a dick.

    fuck, i just noticed. i feel like i'm really late on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeAnte View Post
    You both jack off in front of mirrors. Classic Ti-ENTp masturbation techniques.



    Are you really so stupid that you think whether not someone is posing for a photo makes any damn difference in inborn features and facial expressions? It doesn't. You don't VI like any ENFj anywhere. Period.

    And what do you call this Gilligan, "Beta Fe" > Alpha Fe? lol.

    Looks more like a neurotic ENTp losing control of his super-id fuctions and simply not knowing when to stop. No actual, self respecting ENFj would repeatedly humiliate themselves in this way. You simply lack the control and directness of an ENFj. This shows in both pictures and videos.

    Among other things, in the past, you've also seemed to be fond of mistyping blatant Alpha SFs (Jolie, Zeta-Jones, Bellucci) as "LSIs." Considering your highly and laughably erroneous self typing, this cannot be overlooked and further points toward Ti-ENTp > anything Beta. You seriously need to get over this "my enneagram is such and such, therefore I'm Beta" bullshizzle.

    Winterpark is a dumb, ugly ****** who can't type > Winterpark is a smart, attractive ****** who can't type.

    Other user whose name I can't be bothered with, your input is as uninformed and useless as usual.
    Your comments about Gilly and Winterpark have come off a little too strong and are uncalled for. They are generally good people imo.

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    lol @ Gilly having Ni/Se.

    its cuz he's CEr-RAZIEkljsdflkj!#@

    Your attempts at being EIE come across as empty and infantile. You lack the sort of subtle charisma, focus, and otherworldliness that beta NF's have.

    With Beta NF's I feel like they are insubstantial. They move out of my radar and they're gone. Like there is a fog, or better yet a vacuum and they will just float away from my vision of the world. As if Beta/Gamma are ghost people who just don't stick to the setting. Alpha/Delta move in accordance to the setting. They are grounded in a tangible context and focused on manipulating it.

    You Gilly, are not the same. You fit fine.

    You're not a ghost person lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    I don't see it.
    The phrase "the blind leading those who can't see" comes to mind... though in this particular case it probably has somewhat of a literal meaning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    And I'll be damned if I'm your beneficiary
    I think his self-typing is in his user title.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    The phrase "the blind leading those who can't see" comes to mind... though in this particular case it probably has somewhat of a literal meaning.
    lol

    I think his self-typing is in his user title.
    Whatever he is, I want nothing to do with it
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Jesus Nicky, angst much?

    Your "unmistakeable look" is still kind of vaguely defined, right? Just something that you or other people tend to agree on? Because I'm not sure I see it.

    So let's see how you have this Ni look, eh? :wink:
    gill you're so beta it's great. don't sweat the fools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice View Post
    Anyway, Ni/Se types always seem charismatic imo, irregardless whether they are celebrities or "men in the street". =)
    I find almost all types have charisma thus not really dependent on type.

    And though I place little to no importance in VI, Gilly looks remarkably similar to a friend of mine who I have typed EIE, a long time ago, when we all thought him ILE.
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    i am pretty sure gilly is an ethical type at this point. i was more tempted to say INFp after meeting him, but i think that a good case can be made for either beta NF. he does some odd (to me) swinging between coming off as very extroverted and reasonably introverted. i also briefly had some real problems seeing him as a rational type of any sort, but i guess that could be due to ethical type mood swings. i guess some things about gilly are ENTp-ish if you think weird al is ENTp. he could be an ENTp like weird al, i suppose (and i think that a weird al comparison is completely reasonable.) otherwise i don't have any problems with his self typing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    i am pretty sure gilly is an ethical type at this point. i was more tempted to say INFp after meeting him, but i think that a good case can be made for either beta NF. he does some odd (to me) swinging between coming off as very extroverted and reasonably introverted. i also briefly had some real problems seeing him as a rational type of any sort, but i guess that could be due to ethical type mood swings. i guess some things about gilly are ENTp-ish if you think weird al is ENTp. he could be an ENTp like weird al, i suppose (and i think that a weird al comparison is completely reasonable.) otherwise i don't have any problems with his self typing.
    Am I anyway similar to him in your opinion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 07490 View Post
    Am I anyway similar to him in your opinion?
    somewhat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 07490 View Post
    Am I anyway similar to him in your opinion?
    no not really.
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