+1 That actually reminds me a lot of a guy I think was ENTj I roomed with my first year in college.Originally Posted by Nowisthetime
Conflictor relations generally don't seem that bad to me if you both can sort of spontaneously choose to interact or not interact (usually this :wink. As soon as there's any pressure to deal with each other, like having an ENTj for a boss, then things can get real bad real quick.
Some IEIs seem fascinated with me online. In real life, I kinda enjoyed having an IEI coworker. I drove her nuts.
I have an acquaintance who is LSE and we get along great whenever we chat, which isn't often. I think we both know deep inside that we don't see eye to eye. She enjoys my ESE husband however. Anyway... she's given us hand-me-down clothes for my son since she has two older boys (all of which are great quality, I love getting them!) Definitely held at arm's length but it's all for the best.
IEI-Fe 4w3
I've had a couple of ISTj professors in my time. I think we got along fine on the surface, but on an intellectual basis we were completely incompatible. They wanted me to alter my thought processes to theirs, which I guess is more the sign of a bad teacher than conflictors but it still sucked hard.
This is why I had an advantage in my college English class: the teacher was LSE.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The best experiences with a conflictor happen in bed.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I dated one for almost 5 years, two of them were great actually, until real life problems and differences in worldview emerged. Now neither of us can understand why we were together. Either way, we still meet each other from time to time (I saw her like two days ago) to catch up on everything. She is very kind and smart, not to mention determined.
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ENFp - Fi 7w6 sp/sx
The Ineffable IEI
The Einstein ENTp
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sorry, I disagree. Dualz sex is better. not that I am claiming to have a lot of sex with my duals or my conflictor. I just visualized what would happen if I were to have sex with both, and think dual sex is better.
(D)IEE~FI-(C)SLE~Ni E-5w4(Sp/Sx)/7w8(So/Sp)/9w1(sp/sx)
i don't think he was saying that conflictor sex is better than dual sex, just that the best experiences with a conflictor, happen in bed (as opposed to other places). lol
i worked w a female conflictor on a close distance about 15 years ago. we didn't get along at work and became competitive. after a couple of years, i left that agency but stayed on contact with some co-workers, one of whom also stayed in touch with her.
the three of us started having coffee together and chatting about our field. it continues to this day. we are not close though, and kind of need the third person (istj, my supervisee) to lead and manage the coffee thing. the istj and the isfj are closer to each other i think than either are to me. but these two women despite our socionic relations, helped bring me to christ. i have a deep respect for the isfj particularly who was able to transcend our socionic conflict and focus on higher christian ideals. an example of truly living a christian life. i'm impressed.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
I like my conflictor for the most part as well, we just can't do the things we want with them that I enjoy doing with my duals, which is exacly the same as what Starfalls said, engaging in intellectual conversation over a topic that's not likely to get us anywhere in real life hence devalued Se. I really like my conflictor because they are and can be just as gentle as my dual, actually, sometimes more so then my duals, it's funny to think of it that way. Most of my dating experience with SLE have been a lot of impulsive and spontaneous fun fun fun, but I get tired easily when this fun is not schedualed around Si, rest and relaxation, warm and calming environment.
LSE was trying to get Starfalls to engage in a convo and I can't get the SLE to continue with one. I love intellectual pursuits and my duals really value that about me.
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
ummmmmm... I'm pretty sure my stepmother is my conflictor. We get on quite well as long as I don't act spacey and she ignores small details.
Not a rule, just a trend.
IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.
Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music...
I am grateful for the mystery of the soul, because without it, there could be no contemplation, except of the mysteries of divinity, which are far more dangerous to get wrong.
Ahah. You know what I find funny about this - I personally consider blind faith one of the "worst" traits of some ISFjs (their tendency to become very religious, etc.), yet you as conflictor think that's something "great" about them. I wonder how that might skew a person's "development path" when such relationships is really close (say, a parent or spouse).
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Thanks.
Numbers, I'm so glad we broke up.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
If I am LSI, then I had a good friend and acquaintance back in high school that was an IEE. I also worked well with one of my bosses that was an IEE.
If I am ILE, then I work well with my three ESI co-workers, one of which I talk to every day. I have dated two ESI chicks, and they were both cool to me.
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
--Theodore Roosevelt
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
-- Mark Twain
"Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in."
-- Confucius
My conflictors know how to have fun and they really know how to make me feel sexy. They are great at complimenting, being funny, and treating a woman with class.
Dual type
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Except for Ezra...
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
--Theodore Roosevelt
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
-- Mark Twain
"Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in."
-- Confucius
Well I usually have lunch with my conflictor during the school year. She's nice enough. Doesn't talk much. Also doesn't seem to think much of my religiously themed strip club idea. It offends her or something. I dunno. I tried to explain that I wouldn't just be making Christianity sexy, but all the other religions as well, like Jewishism and Hinduites. Plus I would have all the dancers actually become ordained or whatever in whatever religion they danced as, so it's like you could go to whatever boring church, or a strip club. Or as I like to think of it, sexy church/Sinagauge/temple/what have you.
She says I'm going to hell for that one.
Easy Day
lol does she at least laugh?
That's only because your conflictor is EIE. I definitely wouldn't want to have sex with any IEE I've met.
Ezra is not my conflictor type, he's a Te subcatagory jerk type.
Dual type
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
lol Course not, if she laughed then she would be my dual. It's ok though I laugh enough for the both of us
Easy Day
lol Course not, if she laughed then she would be my dual. It's ok though I laugh enough for the both of us
Like like like.
For goodness sake, quit trying to retype people. You should know people often act differently online than in real life, and if you've never met them in real life you don't know them well enough to try typing them.
Breakfast in bed.
My parents are both my conflictors (I am INFp, they are both ESTj). I get along great with both of them, and have always had a very caring, mostly conflict-free relationship with them. We disagree on certain issues, as all humans do, but we never get in fights about our differing opinions. In fact when I read the socionics description it seems really inaccurate for our relationship. Also one of my best friends is an ESTj. We have complete opposite personalities, but mostly just laugh at each others differences.
“Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.” - Jalal ad-Din Rumi
One of my good friends is an LSI, and we recently spent the day wandering IKEA. He's great to talk to, but even if we do go into deeper topics, it seems like there's still an air of disconnection about it. We don't spend a huge amount of time together, though.
One of my coworkers is an LSI. We're on different wavelengths, but our jobs don't overlap and we give each other lots of autonomy when we do work together. Sometimes our humor fits perfectly and sometimes it doesn't. I like her, and we get along well, it just feels like our interactions are "empty." I can definitely see the seductive side of conflict. In the few times that we connect it's *almost* like I've found a dual, but it seems that we have to work really hard for those moments. They never happen when you think they should, and they're few and far between. It really does seem that if we just keep trying, we'll get there. We have a lot of weird moments where we're just looking at each other like, "Hm. I think the other person wants me to do something...but I don't know what that is."
IEE
discojoe and I have sex on a regular basis
But seriously, he's probably the best relationship with an ISTj I've had. I attribute it to us being sx/sp, as well as both of us having a sense of humor about things. I do find that when we try to have serious conversations I kinda falter for what to say, but that's to be expected.
My best moment with a conflictor was when my LSE dad asked how I was feeling after getting all my wisdom teeth taken out. I cried. Lol.
Other than him I don't have much experience with LSEs. He's probably one of the healthier ones, he just doesn't understand me very well and we've had a pretty rough time trying to live together. He does give good advice for financing though ha
My best moment with a conflictor was when Darth Vader fights with Luke Skywalker in "The Empire Strikes Back".
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant
--> perhaps Normalizing
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
I volunteer with a couple of LSIs. My best relationships happen when I see their little systems and their little rules about how this should go and that should go, and I think, "You know what. It doesn't matter. I'll just do it her way." And then do it her way. Put away the blue ball point pen and use the black Sharpie even if it doesn't really matter what kind of pen is used.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Oh and that reminds me. I was sitting next to an LSI, and we were organizing stuff, and I was doing it it my usual random way, and I could feel her tense up as she watched me. So I thought about it, and decided to just watch how she was organizing stuff and copy her. I sat and watched her and then did it her way, and she relaxed and smiled at me.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
My best experience with my conflictor, was when my ex left me.
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