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    Default VI: ENFj vs. ENFp

    This thread is dedicated to Steve, who today attempted to convince me that I'm delta.

    Male ENFjs

    An ENFj:


    Me:


    Same ENFj:



    Me:





    Steve, are you learning yet?? No??

    male ENFPs

    an ENFp: (guy)


    ENFp

    an ENFp, INFj, and what the hell knows:


    two ENFps and a beta (which one's beta??? guess???):

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    nice. the enfj is probably enfj and at the very least a beta or gamma, while the last guy definitely seems enfp!

    however, you don't have the characteristic 'shrewd' or 'worldly' look of a beta/gamma type juju. i'm afraid you may be an alpha or delta type. which is really not so bad!
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    Quote Originally Posted by heath View Post
    however, you don't have the characteristic 'shrewd' or 'worldly' look of a beta/gamma type juju. i'm afraid you may be an alpha or delta type. which is really not so bad!

    heath, the traits you're ascribing are not type related

    fwiw, re: "worldly" and "shrewd"... i think you might just be bad at reading ppl... e.g. i've lived on both coasts, in between, and three foreign countries... i speak three languages... I'm on my way to my 2nd master's degree... (the other enfj has never left the country... the enfp has been to mexico and a few other places, i think... in other words, if you're going by the definitions of those words, you are incorrect in how you assessed. )

    if this is how you're typing ppl currently, maybe it's time to try something new.



    What I'm trying to show you here is Fe vs. Fi ... do you see how the enfp looks emotionally cooler..? Less fiery/emotionally sharp..? Do you see how the betas look comparatively animated and 'heavier' emotions read clearly on their faces..? This is the difference, visually, between beta Fe and delta Fi.



    hopefully seeing this stuff will shake some of your understandings... otherwise, this forum's understanding will... well, stay like it's been since you and I both got here, heath... i.e. very poor, considering the amount of time ppl spend here.

    I'm noticing that it's mostly the ppl who've been here for a long time, who've had the time to learn Socionics poorly, who are the worst at this... Newcomers seem to get it quickly.
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    Ni ENFj:





    Ni ENFj #2




    ENFp:





    You:


    Another ENFp:



    You again:


    Dynamic vs Static is clear. EJ vs EP (direct control vs passive "looking at") also blatant.

    Fe causal-affect "tracking" vs Fi set "looking at"

    Ni "looking through" vs Ne "looking into"

    Yay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post

    ENFp:






    It's interesting to me how guys can look either ENFp or ISTp. My first thought would've been ISTp for that guy. But they do say duals can resemble each other.

    Anyway, yeah, I agree w/ Steve, and Juju looks super ENFj to me. Those Ni eyes, yup. I wish everyone I knew was cool w/ me posting pics of them here because I know a few guys w/ similar Ni eyes who are ENFj, but they'd find out somehow and that would be bad...
    Hi! I'm an ENFP. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jewels View Post
    It's interesting to me how guys can look either ENFp or ISTp. My first thought would've been ISTp for that guy. But they do say duals can resemble each other.

    Anyway, yeah, I agree w/ Steve, and Juju looks super ENFj to me. Those Ni eyes, yup. I wish everyone I knew was cool w/ me posting pics of them here because I know a few guys w/ similar Ni eyes who are ENFj, but they'd find out somehow and that would be bad...
    steve said i was enfp, not enfj jewels

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    ENFj:



    ENFp:


    Conclusion: JuJu is ENFj-ENFp dual type.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    p.s. I use Model Z for my typings.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    heath, the traits you're ascribing are not type related

    fwiw, re: "worldly" and "shrewd"... i think you might just be bad at reading ppl... e.g. i've lived on both coasts, in between, and three foreign countries... i speak three languages... I'm on my way to my 2nd master's degree... (the other enfj has never left the country... the enfp has been to mexico and a few other places, i think... in other words, if you're going by the definitions of those words, you are incorrect in how you assessed. )

    if this is how you're typing ppl currently, maybe it's time to try something new.



    What I'm trying to show you here is Fe vs. Fi ... do you see how the enfp looks emotionally cooler..? Less fiery/emotionally sharp..? Do you see how the betas look comparatively animated and 'heavier' emotions read clearly on their faces..? This is the difference, visually, between beta Fe and delta Fi.



    hopefully seeing this stuff will shake some of your understandings... otherwise, this forum's understanding will... well, stay like it's been since you and I both got here, heath... i.e. very poor, considering the amount of time ppl spend here.

    I'm noticing that it's mostly the ppl who've been here for a long time, who've had the time to learn Socionics poorly, who are the worst at this... Newcomers seem to get it quickly.
    i type people by the most simple explanations possible. i find more often than not that shrewd calculating people are more often betas and gammas. anyway, just deal homey-- you are not enfj.
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    The way you have your hat on is fucking horrible juju.
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    dude. you've all got it completely wrong.


    here, i'll show you:

    EIEs:







    IEEs:









    now, since you're experts after having viewed this unequivocally correct information, quiz yourselves:









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