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Ephemeros, like I said before and I'll say again, your biggest issue here is you actually do not know who I am or anything about me. Attempts to convince me or others (other than maybe Gulanzon) that I'm anything but an Ne/Si ego are completely ludicrous and demonstrate yet again that you have no comprehension of me on any level. Talking to you about my type is pointless because you're not talking about me, you're talking about some figurehead you've constructed and given my name.
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No, ephemeros, you simply apply a meaning to a lot of my words that does not exist. You constructed an entire persona for me that is so shockingly inaccurate that it actually amazes me that someone is capable of twisting my words without motive.
And since we're going there, I'll address the example you gave above with the IEE and tell you that I make that kind of conversation ALL the time. Rather infamously, in fact. I once had my SEE/ESI (can't decide which) former roomie from last year confront me about it and basically shred me to pieces over the fact that I make "inappropriate" conversation and that I jump into new groups as though I'm already very familiar with them. I believe I even made a thread about it here.
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Your IEE example is something I do, and do rather frequently. The thread I linked you to was not about me having a misunderstanding with friends, but about a room mate confronting me about what he deemed was "inappropriate" behaviour. This included being overly-familiar with new acquaintances, talking about topics that were risque or inappropriate outside of close friends and being too open.
Additionally, I don't think the descriptive dichotomy you discussed earlier actually exists. If it does, then I must be all of Ne/Si/Se/Ni because I am flirty, enjoy hidden meanings, very open and familiar (not to be confused with intimate), and flip through interests frequently.
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Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow did I know this was going to happen?
You're right.
Interestingly enough, two other people who posted in this thread (one an SEI herself) expressed similar sentiments to my own (see below). Additionally, unless you think that I'm trying to dualize with myself, then your argument here for Ni makes no sense. I was describing my observations of SEIs in my life, not my own behaviour. My way of expressing affection has nothing to do with cumulative global meaning and really doesn't reflect that.First of all you assign them a purpose they don't have, actually SEIs described these to me as compulsive spontaneous exaltation. They are isolate bubbles.
That cumulative global meaning is your Ni wishful thinking (not in a derogatory sense), understand it for <whatever you want>'s sake! I really don't know what to say anymore to make you see the light.
That's exactly what I said, just in different words:
Originally Posted by me
ILE
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I wasn't aware this was a "type Vero" thread.
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Everything in Alpha Quadra that I respond to is a "type Vero" thread. Heads up.
Ephemeros, coincidently I was a Political Science major in my first year of university. What politics has to do with any of this, beyond the fact that you don't feel it necessary to respond to my rebuttal, I have no idea.
ILE
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You're certainly not helping the situation by responding
Oh, Yellows. Three cheers for our attention-seeking antics!
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ephemerous you say the same things over and over again to vero, you are like a broken record. so far as I have seen, you act like a stubborn mule intellectually. everything you say seems to be based on you're SEI and you're ILEness, anybody who acts differently must not be a true type in your world because you are too stubborn to broaden your outlook on things.
I am an SEI, and you BORE me! I would never be able to spend more than a few minutes in your presence without having to break your nose because of how annoying you are. (since you are too pigheaded to understand this, this is a joke, I would not break your nose... but I would be very very annoyed because you seem as though you are the type of person who never has anything interesting to say, yet never shuts up and thinks that everybody is interested in what you have to say. In normal ILEs this is attractive, but in your case... it most certainly IS NOT!)
also, please please PLEASE! take some English classes if you are going to be talking to people on an English internet forum. Your English is awful and it just makes it that much more silly when you try to argue with people using it.
You mean the part where you selectively interpret every word I say to negotiate your own misguided impression? Those baits?
Ephemeros, your arrogance astounds me. That you assume people are seeing some new side of me day by day without any evidence is ludicrous. Everytime I provide you evidence contrary to your narrow view, you back it up solely with your individual interpretation that lacks any sort of evidence. For heaven's sake, you can't even apply rhetorical fallacies correctly. My argument was an appeal to authority, not a bare assertion fallacy. Whether I am smarter than you is compeltely irrelevant to this discussion, rather it bothers me that you go around saying things that are simply untrue and misrepresent me personally, which offends me because I believe in truth.
As for my relationships with SEIs, yet again you're proving that you haven't ACTUALLY bothered to learn anything about me on this forum before developing your ridiculous typing. I have an SEI ex-boyfriend and my room mate from first year university was an SEI, things that I've talked about on the forum several times. For the record, my relationship with the SEI ex did not fail out of discontent and boredom on either of our parts. We're still very good friends and really enjoy the time we spend together. He still tries to restart the relationship, but I ended it because I don't have have any sexual chemistry with him.
ILE
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My answer to this thread: who cares? I used to get upset if someone questioned my type. Now, it doesn't matter to me. I have a strong enough grasp of the information elements that I can see most of the functions in others and I know how I relate to these people. So, if someone tells me that I'm anything other than LII, I can say with strong certainty that they're wrong. Therefore, if mn0good has a good understanding of her the functions and her intertype relations, then she shouldn't listen to what some idiot has to say. On the other hand, if she's deceiving herself or doesn't understand socionics, then ephermos isn't such an idiot after all.
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