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    Default Why is the president of the United States so dishonest?

    It is scary that people fall for his stuff. He pats you on the back with one hand and stabs you in the back with the other. People fall for it and it is so annoying.

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    Here, he sells the internet 2, admittedly he does it very well:



    He basically says that his administration is not setting up a dictatorship; he is such a good liar.

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    People like him and voted for him because he looks good on TV. That's it. That's all.

    You can't seriously defend his character or a single one of his policies with any credibility.

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    I better not show this to my parents lol(they love Obama) but I dont care.
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    Just about everyone seems to be dishonest in the real world, Ob l Hamla is just fitting in.

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    I, for one, welcome this totalitarian new order.

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    I agree soooo much.

    All politicians are dishonest and corrupt sex offender perverts. That's why they want an easy life of 'ideas' and telling other people what to do instead of actually doing any work themselves. They are demons, truly. People going 'oh he's not as bad as Bush' just make me ill. He's every bit as bad as Bush.

    He's greedy. He wants power. He's snobby. He doesn't care about you. Get over it and actually pay attention to people in your life that actually do give a damn about you, dear gawd!

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    7:57:15 AM Allie: oh god
    7:57:23 AM Allie: look at these young photos of obama
    7:57:28 AM Allie: http://www.mbfala.com/exhibitions/_53/_img/
    7:57:59 AM Ashton: Lol weird
    7:58:05 AM Allie: lol yea
    7:58:07 AM Allie: he seems cool
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    7:58:16 AM Ashton: How did he become such a dork
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    I think collective mindsets are very much a Beta thing (certainly out of all the quadras). Seeing he's Beta (well I think it's the most agreed on type, a Beta NF, probably IEI), then it makes sense that he'll function in this sort of way.

    I don't know anything in great detail about Obama's policies, from what's been wrote on this thread I wonder if the collectiveness while having to work within democracy can produce much more than rhetoric. I am for the moment anyway interested to see what this debate produces!
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    Look at his flip flopping on the CIA memos. All he does is try to appease as many people as possible while covertly enacting a super-left-wing agenda, which everyone said he wouldn't do (because he charmingly said so on TV, even though his voting record was more liberal than Ted Kennedy's).

    Luckily for us reality dwellers, left-wing philosophies are unrealistic fantasies which, though they can cause damage, can't actually work as long as human nature causes people to care about their own wellbeing.

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    I've only really followed the actions of George Bush as a leader in the US and Tony Blair onwards in the UK, so I don't really have much to compare Obama to. I don't particularly see anything wrong with Obama "flip flopping" over the CIA memos, just so long as he makes the right descision. Okay, it could make him look weak and it may not give you much hope over his competance over bigger issues, and he could have perhaps done his flip-flopping behind closed doors instead.

    It's possible that in the UK the death penalty would be brought back if politicians tried to appease as many people as possible, which is something I don't want to happen. But I would think on the whole, trying to appease as many people as possible would be the best thing to do, unless you want to stop idiots that you don't agree with from voting.

    Obama might very well fuck up the US but I get the feeling he probably won't fuck up the rest of the world as well!

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    Hmm, from what I understand about Jimmy Carter, there wasn't much he could do about the Iran situation short of an invasion...and the hostages did get released. I suppose a war would have been popular?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    I've only really followed the actions of George Bush as a leader in the US and Tony Blair onwards in the UK, so I don't really have much to compare Obama to. I don't particularly see anything wrong with Obama "flip flopping" over the CIA memos, just so long as he makes the right descision. Okay, it could make him look weak and it may not give you much hope over his competance over bigger issues, and he could have perhaps done his flip-flopping behind closed doors instead.

    It's possible that in the UK the death penalty would be brought back if politicians tried to appease as many people as possible, which is something I don't want to happen. But I would think on the whole, trying to appease as many people as possible would be the best thing to do, unless you want to stop idiots that you don't agree with from voting.

    Obama might very well fuck up the US but I get the feeling he probably won't fuck up the rest of the world as well!
    This flip flopping is just another example of his cynical opportunism.

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