INTJ/LII
difference in Introversion/Extraversion
difference in Intuitive/Sensing
difference in Thinking/Feeling
difference in Judging/Perceiving
same in Introversion/Extraversion
same in Intuitive/Sensing
same in Thinking/Feeling
same in Judging/Perceiving
INTJ/LII
sociotype.com
LII
ENFP and ENFj
The results of the poll show that the correlation is evident.
Not really..11 of the 20 people (out of the total of 28) who said that they were the same on the Thinking/Feeling axis could have said they were different on one of the other three dichotomies...also, the difference/same subtotals don't add up to 28...which means in addition there are some people who are unsure if they score the same on a particular dichotomy.
The poll asks about correspondences in 4 dichotomies.
~75% of posters reported correspondence in at least one of those 4.
As far as the results go, statistically, there is no correlation whatsoever.
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
Your assumption in incorrect. ~50% means no correlation.
There are multiple options possible.
So in this actual case it's even possible that ~75% of the posters reported correspondence to all of the 4 dichotomies.
I wonder what numbers you would like to see to call it a correlation.
Last edited by Jarno; 05-15-2009 at 08:40 PM.
Plus, what about the people who are basing their typing off previous experiences with MBTI, who actually aren't typing themselves accurately?
Look at this:
That's what I'd like to call socionics at the end of the day.Two of my friends:
INTJ : ESTp
INxP : ESTj
Yep.
If there was no correlation whatsoever, then you'd expect 100% of people to vote "difference" for each dichotomy, and 0% to vote "same".
If everybody identified in both systems with three out of four dichotomies, you'd get on average 75% of people voting "same" for each dichotomy, while having no apparent 1:1 correlation between the two systems (i.e. people having the 'same' type in both).
The average for people voting "same" is about 77%...and this does not take into account people who voted for neither "difference" or "same" for a particular dichotomy.
I don't believe you can have negative correlation in this case. You could if you were comparing two linear variables such as weight and height, but not if you were asking if there was a correlation between two systems (a 'yes' or 'no' answer)...in which case, it would go from a correlation of 0 to 100%.
INFP : ILI
SEE-Fi 9w8 sx/sp
I was first INTP back when I was a teenager, but after a few years I started scoring higher on both F and J. It's kinda weird I'm not really sure what I am anymore.
The saddest ESFj
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I remember reading about myers briggs once and reading that in that system it is the extroverted function that determines the J/P. I didn't really think they had functions in that way. But anyways what I read was interesting.
For example an INFP in socionics has an extroverted judjing function. Thus in myers briggs this is suppsed to correlate to INFJ. ENFJ in socionics is ENFJ in myers briggs as it has an extroverted judging function also. ENFP (socionics) correlates to ENFP (myers briggs) because of the introverted judging function, so INFJ correlates to INFP.
So when changing from socionics to myers briggs all introverts change the P to a J or vice versa. All extroverts stay the same.
Could well be a load of nonsense but interesting none the less.
IEE
switching j/p is an old myth.
MBTI starts out using the right type descriptions, for example the mbti 'ISTP' and the socionics 'ISTp' are both called 'the mechanic' or 'master of tools'.
So there is clearly a 1 on 1 correlation.
But MBTI goes wrong when it tries to apply functions to the different types. Since they have this crazy reasoning for finding the leading type of introverts, and next to that they only have 4 functions in total. So it's best to ignore mbti functions completely since they only confuse things and they aren't used that much anyways. While the mbti descriptions are sufficiently accurate and the mbti dichotomies only differ slightly in their definitions with socionics ones.
MBTI ENTP, often testing also as ENFP. I also very often test as a J. So I bounce around between four types.
I don't like MBTI tests
Definite Socionics ENTp, though.
IEE-Ne | ENFP | 4w3-6w7-9w1 so/sp/sx | sCoA|I| | Sanguine/Choleric | Benevolent Inventor
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birthday frog will give you presents and a card on your birthday
birthday frog is Fe incarnate
MBTI: IxTP
Socionics: IxTj
The ISTP and SLI descriptions fit me best though, I think.
In MBTI I test as INTJ most of the time.
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
MBTT - INTP
Socionics - ILE > ILI > IEE > IEI