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[Wynch]

Why did you care if Ephemeros understood Gul or not? If Ephemeros did not understand, would he be hostile, or perhaps it was his understanding that made him hostile? You are trying to distance yourself from what is said, but there was two parts to what you said and the part he quoted I think in his estimation, you closed that distance. I would have to say I think I understood Ephemeros at that point.

His hostility was not the result of a misunderstanding, but rather out of an understanding. You missed this, but you explained the ethical implications clearly. Did you say what you said because you were trying to defend Gulazon or did you say what you said because you thought Ephemeros did not understand? Perhaps it is both?

Perhaps you will see what I see. This was just a small moment, one of many, but one that I think represents many of the interactions I see you engage in, with me and others. What does it tell you about yourself?

As I explained to you in PM, I had already discussed this topic before and I was seeking clarity of meaning. Part of this was because I felt something was being lost in communication and the other part was that I was seeking a peaceful place to discuss things, not one filled with hostility.

You're right that this moment is one of many, but in this case I feel it is being blown way out of proportion.

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

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[Gilly]

ephemeros: I dont want to censor you, and I dont plan on it; what I want is for you to LISTEN to other people who have been around for a while instead of assuming you know it all. BUT if you keep asserting poorly reasoned typings that are obviously part of some strange ba-gua associations you have formed, I'm going to move your posts to the alt theories section, where they technically belong already.

vero: get it now?

[Creepy-male]

"bodies should match external; Se/Ni - "first impression counts" persons [Beta and Gamma]; first impression necessarily will match the conclusion; self image; qualified person implies best result."

By that, my ESE friend is Decisive. Apparently Fe isn't allowed to care about image and perception.

How do I know he's ESE?

Because I explained his functions in plain English to him, and he agreed. This is how I confirm all my typings.

EDIT

No, my bad. I misread that passage.

Anyway, you're being ridiculous. Questioning everyone but yourself. That's not a healthy mindset at all.

FURTHER EDIT

There are lots of reasons a person might want qualifications. IEEs reacting against Ti PoLR, epic nerds epic nerding it up, etc, etc. You're jumping to a single conclusion. Or I'm not reading and absorbing everything you say... one of the two.

[Wynch]

Ephemeros, I'm sorry, but I don't even understand how you can completely miss the logical inconsistency in your argument. What you've quoted to demonstrate my resolution is absolutely ridiculous and shows the complete opposite.

Academically this is true. Sort of.

I'm pointing out that there's more to the argument than what is there. Ergo it one context you could call it true, but I'm opening up the possibility for other cases.

It's not even yours or your rules! Go enforce rules in another quadra :-P

This is very obviously me joking with someone.

15. What is a goal you would like to accomplish in the near future?
Finding a satisfying path in life.

From the link to the Judicious/Decisive article you yourself linked:

"Judicious
-Natural state is relaxed
-On work, usually prefers satisfying working conditions to salary and other rewards"

I mean honestly here. You're giving me what I need to construct my counter argument. I can't believe I actually have to point this out to you.

What do you fear most in love?
Pain, betrayal, boredom, being used, making stupid decisions, intimacy and vulnerability.

You fool, these are the things that I fear coming out of a relationship. I'm afraid of relationships becoming boring, I fear the possibility of being used and of making stupid decisions out of a relationship. I fear the vulnerability and pain that an intimate relationship can bring. These are the things I'm afraid of having happen in a relationship because they are the opposite of what I want.

That's where you can find me as long as I don't have other plans that are interfering.

I remember exactly where this is from. This is from the thread discussing where you can find alpha NTs (perhaps even just ILEs). Before this sentence I listed off all the places I tend to be and then followed it up with this statement, that sometimes my plans take me elsewhere. This doesn't mean plans as in writing a schedule of things to do, it means that I decide I'm going to do something so I do it. For instance, I decided I wanted to go blonde for the summer so I have a hair appointment tonight. That's a plan, sure. It means I won't be at home or playing a board game or out in shenanigans. But if I want my hair blonde, then I have to make a plan. Simple as that.

22. If you could go back in time and change something, what would it be?
I would have compelted my portfolio for my Architecture application.

Again, I think you misunderstand the english language. This is asking me what I would change if I could go back in time. I said I would have completed my portfolio for my architecture application. That is, I would have finished the requirements to apply to the school of architecture at my university. It has absolutely nothing to do with my level of qualification. If you apply to study architecture, you need to put together a portfolio of art. That's what I'm talking about.


At this point it's very clear to me that you don't know what you're talking about and that your opinions on my type are completely unfounded. You are, of course, free to believe what ever you'd like. However, in my eyes this thread is finished and I've seen what I needed to see.

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

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[Wynch]

I hope this helps: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...tml#post521933.

It helps me feel better about your understanding of socionics, if not your ability to apply it. It also reaffirms my believe that I am judicious and not decisive and my recognition that a large part of your problem here is that you either don't understand english or have no ability to see beyond the most narrow/literal scope of a word.

[implied]