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    IP temperament fits better consistently, I am more adept with Ti than Se, enneatype fits better, I feel more in common with IEIs than EIEs...I have some reservations, and have come up with reasonable explanations for these things, and others, in the context of being EIE, but, well, the scales have tipped and I am at the very least going to consider IEI seriously. Heck, it was even my first MBTI result, back when I was like 12. Any objections?

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    Also its just been way too long since I've questioned my type

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    lol glam

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    Just remember that type on the internet is much faker than type in real life. That is my only advice.

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    Just choose one configuration of Ni and Fe Gilly, I look at your sig sometimes and I wonder if it will change in a week or a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akra View Post
    Depends on your perspective. Who's to say that your type in real life isn't more fake than your type on the internet?
    Because internet isn't interactive enough, no matter how advanced anyone thinks it is to this day. Personality is clearest in real life circumstance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akra View Post
    Not necessarily. I put on a mask far more in real life than here, and I know my true self comes through more easily here. It's an individual thing, something only the individual can know and a blanket assessment that it's always RL > internet doesn't work in practice.
    Yes that is true actually. However I know a lot of people who are much easier to get to know in real life, and on the internet they seem extremely reserved.

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    For whatever its worth, from what I have seen of you on stickam you seem more like an ENFj than INFp. You seem to have pretty high energy levels and manage to keep the spotlight on yourself pretty well (not implying that that is a bad thing).
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    +1 Akra; I'm definitely less inhibited here than irl, and, especially with the help of socionics, i can essentially manipulate interactions with people, and tend to do so rather naturally, to the point that rl interactions arent really a good judge of my type, the exception to this being my own natural reactions to people.

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    btw kam, i havent even questioned my type in nearly a year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    btw kam, i havent even questioned my type in nearly a year
    I was sure I recalled you switching more than that, but I am probably mistaken. w/e, just be ILE.
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    You always felt kind of like a 'soul brother' in a way.

    I too am obsessed with narcissism, and staring out into space with my nude, beautiful homoerotic self (like those portraits of old greek war heroes) - out in the distance and sighing romantically to myself while people get caught up in all kinds of sticky situations that they could have avoided if they'd just stare in a pond and be mesmerized by how beautiful they are.

    I too have been both the victim of society, the tortured emo victim that people like to spit on just because they are too weak and fraile to fight back, and also the highest of the high- the leader, the one that sees everything and knows exactly what to say and do to lead a group of people into victory.

    Also the not good at sports thing and having a very powerful mom and weak wussy dad: Another thing in common.

    We are just one big happy family here. We think we're so different from each other but the truth? We are ALL much more alike, regardless of type.

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    Its the truth.

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    You think Im your dual? Dude, either one of us has enough Fe for 2

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    @Gilly:
    NO, NO, NO.
    Please tatoo "EIE" on your hand so that you can remember it each and every day, in spite of whatever mood you are in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    IP temperament fits better consistently, I am more adept with Ti than Se, enneatype fits better, I feel more in common with IEIs than EIEs...I have some reservations, and have come up with reasonable explanations for these things, and others, in the context of being EIE, but, well, the scales have tipped and I am at the very least going to consider IEI seriously. Heck, it was even my first MBTI result, back when I was like 12. Any objections?
    Didn't you post a thread before saying you thought temperaments were irrelevant to socionics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    IP temperament fits better consistently, I am more adept with Ti than Se, enneatype fits better, I feel more in common with IEIs than EIEs...I have some reservations, and have come up with reasonable explanations for these things, and others, in the context of being EIE, but, well, the scales have tipped and I am at the very least going to consider IEI seriously. Heck, it was even my first MBTI result, back when I was like 12. Any objections?
    Didn't you post a thread before saying you thought temperaments were irrelevant to socionics?

    I don't see you as an introvert.

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    Why not going back to your original ENTp typing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Why not going back to your original ENTp typing?
    I'd tap that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khola View Post
    I'd tap that.
    Yea I bet you would

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    @fdg: why should i?

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    <3 gilly

    gilly, i think we're identicals... although, as you've said to me, you know yourself better than I know you--and I know you know the theory...

    If IEI, you'd be a Fe-IEI for sure...

    You have any new-ish photos for VI?

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    99% of the guys around here are ENTps

    99% of the girls around here are ISFps
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    99% of the guys around here are ENTps

    99% of the girls around here are also ENTps
    Fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    <3 gilly

    gilly, i think we're identicals... although, as you've said to me, you know yourself better than I know you--and I know you know the theory...

    If IEI, you'd be a Fe-IEI for sure...

    You have any new-ish photos for VI?
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    @cyclops: i dont think they are irrelevant, but i do think some people put too much emphasis on temperament as a way of spotting types.

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    ESE? Dont do that you're going to make this a lot messier than it has to be *sigh* Now I have to rethink EVERYTHING! >.<;

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    I think you guys are saying 2 different things: mimosa is trying to say that fe subs are more interested in having money and making it, while ifmd is saying that ni subs tend to be better at managing money and think about their actual resource management more. Which works well, really: if you make more, you dont have to think about it as much, but if you manage well, why go out of your way to make more if it doesnt have intrinsic value to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica View Post
    We need a better subtype theory. One that allows for IEIs of the EIE subtype, for example (it will include juju, scarlettlux, glamourama, strrrng, you, me and all the other borderline Beta NFs. ).
    Hahaha!

    It's a good idea -- it's actually what Ashton has attempted w/ Socionix -- using temperament as the deciding factor of one's type, rather than, say, Model A's predictions of inter-type relations. (E.g. this is why Ashton types me INFp rather than ENFj.)

    It would be a great idea if the inter-type relations worked out--they don't yet--but it's been a good effort regardless.

    The way I found my Socionics type, once and for all, is by dating my dual. Compared with dating my activity relation (SLE,) dating my dual (LSI) was much more comfortable and fulfilling.



    Gilly, if you really want to find out your real type, find a SLE and LSI--any will do--and go out with them for awhile... (Granted, it's sort of a 'people experiment' of dubious ethics.) Everything fell into place really quickly for me after dating a LSI.

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    gilly's argument seems reasonable. He does seem to be a little flaky, but he directs a lot of emotional energy outwards towards people.
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    when looking at ieis, fe subs are more likely to be interested in money for the sake of status or making enough that they simply dont have to worry about it, whereas ni subs are more interested in money for its own sake or long-term financial security, and tend to be better at managing it.
    This is true for me. (I'm a Ni-subtype)

    I've always enjoyed most of your posts Gilly, as long as you're not being too hyper. You seem to be one of the few people here that actually understands this shit.

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    btw i have concluded that i am split subtype eie. Thanks for indulging my whims/fantasies of being the same type as herman hesse

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    heh, nah, temperamemt ring theory works fine for me. However in this case i think we need to look more plainly at what the theory tells us instead of making hypothetical statistical projections: when looking at ieis, fe subs are more likely to be interested in money for the sake of status or making enough that they simply dont have to worry about it, whereas ni subs are more interested in money for its own sake or long-term financial security, and tend to be better at managing it

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    Awww, B&D, you really know how to stroke a guy's intellectual phallus.

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    I'm trying to think of good male examples of eie subtypes. For ni, george jung from blow (mirtha seems like a good example of se-lsi) and howl from howl's moving castle come to mind.

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    I already have. Just like you will eventually come around to SLE-Ti Shit, your girlfriend even looks like an IEI. Embrace the Dark Side...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla View Post
    ^ This whiney fuck? Lmao, he's not an SLE.
    Ahahha agreed.
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    maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
    go ask the frog what the scorpion knows

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