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    in which order do you specifically remember the sixteen types? ...and if you use subtypes, how do you factor that in? do you even use a specific order?


    I use the information relay:

    , , , , , , ,
    SEI, ILE, LII, ESE, LSI, EIE, IEI, SLE, ILI, SEE, ESI, LIE, EII, LSE, SLI, IEE
    Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta
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    Order? Information relay?

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    Yes, probably non-Ti valueing at least on my part. I don't remember them in any order, I can't really see the need for it for me personally. I take people and their types in a 'dynamic' case by case basis.

    Although I may not fully understand the question at this point.

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    I dont understand it actually. The only system I could imagine for me would be Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta but even then if for instance someone would ask me to talk about types I would probably choose either my type, or some other Delta type and go in random from there, as in would go quadra by quadra but in no specific order.
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    I dunno, I never bothered sorting out the types.

    Except when I draw up squares to get the dichotomy operations, lol.

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    I don't order them, but I definitely group them in my mind.

    Basically I map it out in my mind like a two-dimensional matrix.

    Alpha SF Alpha NT
    Beta NF Beta ST
    Gamma SF Gamma NT
    Delta NF Delta ST

    I do this sort of innie/outie sort of thing though like... hard to explain in a way, but when mapping the specific types in my mind I go:

    ESE | LII ILE | SEI
    EIE | LSI SLE | IEI
    SEE | ILI LIE | ESI
    LSE | EII IEE | SLI
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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    in which order do you specifically remember the sixteen types? ...and if you use subtypes, how do you factor that in? do you even use a specific order?
    Order? wtf. I don't have any order I remember them all at once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    Order? wtf. I don't have any order I remember them all at once.
    Yeah, wth, haha. This thread confuses me so much.
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    I still have this image in my head.

    With the image there I don't have to remember the explicit connections between functions or types...the picture just pops into my mind and I recall the spatial locations and arrows of each function, type, quadra, type's funcion orderings, supervisory and benefactory rings, etc. It gives me an instant image of how each type relates to the other without having to redo up little charts, nor try to find it again in some online reference page, nor remember a bunch of obscure names/locations to get an overview of the intertype relations, etc.

    In essence, it totally made at least half of my socionics studying a heck of a lot easier!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by anndelise View Post
    In essence, it totally made at least half of my socionics studying a heck of a lot easier!!
    lol

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    Loki, lol?
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    For me it depends on why I'm thinking of them I guess. Usually it's one of two ways. Either dual pairs or by clubs (for some reason it's a little easier to think of alpha AND gamma SFs, for example, than one or the other).

    Most of the time though, yeah, it's dual pairs by quadra.
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    So no one just thinks of a type and knows its relation to the other types? You all have these complicated diagrams and orders that you have to go through each time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by calenwen View Post
    So no one just thinks of a type and knows its relation to the other types? You all have these complicated diagrams and orders that you have to go through each time?
    lol, you do? I have to figure out rules so I can remember the relations. Otherwise I've got to pull up wikisocion!
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    I list them in the order Brilliand and I originally mapped out their diagrams in.
    EIE ESE SEI SLI LSE LIE ILI IEI
    LSI LII ILE IEE EII ESI SEE SLE

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    The other thing that I do in addition to the two-dimensional map I talked about before, is I can visualize the shared quadra values between two qudras.

    So, I'll see the Alpha/Beta border as Fe/Ti, Beta/Gamma border as Ni/Se, Gamma/Delta border as Fi/Te and Delta/Alpha border as Ne/Si

    It's just basically another way I group them mentally that acts as a guide to better visualize a type's relationship with the other types.
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    Huh. I don't remember them in any order or system. I always start from my own type and figure it out from there, figuring out relations in my head as I go. Or I pull up the wiki if I get muddled doing it that way But there's no order for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songofsappho View Post
    Huh. I don't remember them in any order or system. I always start from my own type and figure it out from there, figuring out relations in my head as I go. Or I pull up the wiki if I get muddled doing it that way But there's no order for me.
    same here. they're all sort of "balancing" anyhow, so you just reverse the functions for the mirrors, etc. it works something like that for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by songofsappho View Post
    Huh. I don't remember them in any order or system. I always start from my own type and figure it out from there, figuring out relations in my head as I go. Or I pull up the wiki if I get muddled doing it that way But there's no order for me.
    This is what I was trying to say. (:
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