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    Thanks Gully.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    The above two posts by Brill:

    "Why ESEs should never try to sound smart: And introductory essay."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    SLIs are Constructivist. However, they are not Farsighted.
    The real question is *drum roll*... is Winterpark farsighted? TADA!
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulanzon View Post
    "Why ESEs should never try to sound smart: And introductory essay."
    It's funny how you guys always manage to screw things up when all you wanted to do is help.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Hm, I don't know. If I were a "realistic" person, as you say, then shouldn't I be more relaxed and simply aware of the things that are making me negative? Why would a realist worry so much about unnecessary details and be afraid of how things are going to turn out? And be continuously self-critical to no avail?
    Do you see the right to be negative? not every thing is fine and dandy, there for you do have the right to be negative.

    In any case where one is acting negative there must be a reason why, no? I think as long as one can see the reason to being negative then it has subjective meaning behind it...Then it's okay?

    .... hmm hope it does not seem i'm just talking out of my ass...
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    At least our personality isn't one big screwup

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    Best Supervisees in the socion <3

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    Aww, thanks. K, now don't touch me.
    Last edited by Park; 04-15-2009 at 03:16 AM.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulanzon View Post
    Random threadjack:

    Smilex, have you considered static types with transblocks?

    Like, using PoLR instead of creative. That would seem to explain why I "moved" from EIE to ESE (which would be in reverse order from what I've been told about your theory o: )
    I don't see any reason why one couldn't "move" from ENFj to ESFj. I've just observed the opposite to be more common and more intuitively useful. I'm very happy if you can confirm that the opposite has happened to you.

    As for static types with transblocks, they are not central to my way of thinking, no.
    First eliminate every possible source of error. Thence success is inevitable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    So what have you observed in my daily online behavior in regards to this dichotomy? (If you have, at all.) I'm curious. Or do you have any opinion about my type at all?

    Oh, and btw, I really liked those graphs you once made for the dichotomies course through quadras and type. Do they still exist somewhere online?
    They still exist in the articles section, yes. In the same thread as always. "Easy-to-use something something."

    Negativism-positivism is much more difficult to observe through the net. It's easy in personal contact, but I can't see your face or your gestures. Mostly you seem like... "limiting" to me, though, but that's just my best guess. (That is, abstract subtype of negative or concrete subtype of positive).
    First eliminate every possible source of error. Thence success is inevitable.

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    I went through a period of soul-searching and confrontationality. And I'm here, now.

    I'm going to fall back on my default "Ask Brill" response though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilingeyes View Post
    They still exist in the articles section, yes. In the same thread as always. "Easy-to-use something something."

    Negativism-positivism is much more difficult to observe through the net. It's easy in personal contact, but I can't see your face or your gestures. Mostly you seem like... "limiting" to me, though, but that's just my best guess. (That is, abstract subtype of negative or concrete subtype of positive).
    Thanks.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilingeyes View Post
    I don't see any reason why one couldn't "move" from ENFj to ESFj. I've just observed the opposite to be more common and more intuitively useful. I'm very happy if you can confirm that the opposite has happened to you.
    The suggestion of ENFj came originally from me reading this:
    Gulanzon's LiveJournal

    (Yeah, I read the whole four years. I only suggested Beta for some of it.)

    ^ Cast into the crowd for general bickering and/or independent study.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    The suggestion of ENFj came originally from me reading this:
    Gulanzon's LiveJournal
    ENFj was my first opinion and suggestion to him when he came to this forum. (And I haven't read his journal)
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    On the negativist and ISTp thing. I know little about this dichotomy, but here is how I see it happening IRL.

    Myself and an ISTp who i've became quite good friends with of late. It's eery in the sense that he and I have experienced almost identical situations in life, and in similar situations, exactly the same thing happens to us.

    We've had a lot of knocks and the shit just seems to keep hitting the fan. Now this-the situations, depresses the both of us: but each time we repeat something we are always optimistic that this time it will be good. We always look for the positives in a bad situation and even when we get stuff off our respective chests to each other, he and I always look to end it on a bright note, even if that involves some little bit of philosophising.

    Also, we tend to put on a good face in times of adversity (which maybe some people confuse with Fe PoLR- lack of emotions, in this instance towards the negative impending doom stuff. There is always something that can be done, always something to take from the situation, even when things are rough).

    Unlike INTp's where it's all fucked and they wallow in the gloom side of life. My ISTp friend and I just keep truckin and always revert back to things will get better-which at the same time could be Ne seeking, the old "what's for you want go by you".

    Don't know much about this dichotomy, but that's the types irl ime for ya.

    If this isn't being a positivist, then what is?
    Last edited by Cyclops; 04-16-2009 at 08:45 PM.

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